Talk:Radia tapes controversy

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Nira Radia was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 03 December 2010 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Radia tapes controversy. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

This article has become a runaway train - it is unreadable, has way too much detail, and has the tone of a daily report/newspaper. It needs immediate trimming and sanitation, so that is still qualifies as an encyclopaedia article. Also, an amazing amount of sock puppetry to be seen. Someone seems to be hellbent on turning this article into a cesspool of PoV and inundating everyone with details. That really needs to stop immediately. Achitnis (talk) 16:51, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Radia_tapes_controversy#Arrests

This section needs keeping up to date , its not correct to tell people that a person was arrested on Feb 6 without then telling them what happened - were they kept without bail, or bailed without charge or charged and bailed - please update this section, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 17:32, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is horrifying. Almost every reference I've checked fails verification, with citations that say they point to a news story by author A, title B, date C but when checked point to a different story by a different author, appearing on a different date under a different title and not supporting the statement in the article. For example, I found <ref name="Media">{{cite web | url = http://www.mediacrooks.com/2010/11/nira-radia-real-hero-whos-behind-tapes.html | title = Indian media's mighty stand exposed on wrong side of 2G spectrum scam | publisher = [[International Business Times]] | author = November 23, 2010 }}</ref> in the lead. As a footnote that renders as:

^ November 23, 2010. "Indian media's mighty stand exposed on wrong side of 2G spectrum scam". International Business Times.

Looks official, doesn't it? It should link to http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/84868/20101123/nira-radia-tapes-2g-scam-media-involvement-barkha-dutt-vir-sanghvi.htm but last Monday Maniiyer728 (talk · contribs) re-linked it to an anonymous blog piece titled "Nira Radia – A Real Hero : Who’s Behind The Tapes Conspiracy?" (diff). Of course, I've restored the previous link—but it turns out it fails verification anyway, because it doesn't mention any of the businesses (Neucom, Noesis Strategic Consulting Services and Vitcom Consulting) for which it is the citation. Such misleading use of sources is particularly worrying given the potential to libel living people. The article needs a comprehensive review to ensure accuracy and ongoing supervision to keep it that way. - Pointillist (talk) 09:23, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of material should be moved from here to 2G spectrum scam. For instance, Radia tapes controversy#Arrests and Chargesheets pertain to the larger 2G spectrum scam rather than the more specific Radia tapes aspect. Similarly, a significant part of Radia tapes controversy#Public Accounts Committee (Parliament of India) and Radia tapes controversy#Investigations can be moved there. Raised at Talk:2G spectrum scam too. Oops daisy (talk) 04:31, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I support that. In principle, the material in Radia tapes controversy should be restricted to the calls and the context around the recording: e.g. the legal basis for it and the claims about Nira Radia being an agent of a foreign power. All the broader stuff about the alleged scam belongs at 2G spectrum scam. This is analogous to the distinction between Watergate tapes and Watergate scandal. - Pointillist (talk) 07:03, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes, support both comment above, those charges are more correct on the 2G page, although this is not a BLP it should still focus on the issues connected to the name in the title. Off2riorob (talk) 09:46, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Merged Oops daisy (talk) 05:28, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I am happy with this resolution. Content has been deleted, but a rewrite would be much easier than sorting out violations. Now that this issue has settled somewhat it is easier to write the history of the event and track the changes to the article. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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