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Originally this article had a publicity shot, but its fair use rationale was disputed. (Image:DSC_0714.JPG) So I asked someone to upload a new picture under GNU license. (Image:Timschafer.jpg) However, this picture is old (from 2001) and shows Tim Schafer holding marmite for no reason at all, so if anyone can get a better GNU licensed picture, go for it. Technitai 11:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Surely the caption is supposed to read "Tim Schafer with Marmite" rather than "Marmite with Tim Schafer"
Unless Marmite is a figure of greater importance on this page?--86.142.116.107 (talk) 14:11, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I have just cut out the games that Tim Schafer did not work on. He never worked on any Star Wars game, nor did he work on any Indiana Jones games and he surely didn't work on Curse of Monkey Island, since he was working on Grim Fandango at the time.
But he did do 'Day of The Tentacle' , and 'Full Throttle'
Actually, he did work on the Curse of Monkey Island, just go to [1] and see the Additional Design part. He's also credited on two noteworthy Star Wars games, Jedi Knight and Shadows of the Empire, though I'm not sure if can count, since he's listed as "Never Actively Tried to Sabotage the Project" (The Racoon King) in the second and he's just part of the LucasArts Entertainment Company team (as "Brooding Morale Coordinator") in the first. Finally, in Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, he is listed as "SCUMM Advice Offered By". You can see his profile at [2]--Vertigo200 04:28, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm a bit concerned with the word "gameography" being used to describe Tim Schafer's accomplishments. Is this appropriate for an encyclopedia?Theodorel 08:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Another word gaining steam for the meaning here is "ludography," coming from the latin 'ludus' meaning 'game.' While I like it, gameography is probably used more often (and is used at mobygames.com) Jeffool : 209.214.242.119 06:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
How is this relevant enough to warrant its inclusion in the first line of the article? Was he born in Norway, or just parents? Because if it's the latter, what's the big deal?
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german origin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.179.160.205 (talk) 03:13, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Is his birth name "Timothy" as the article says since October 2009 because an IP editor decided to change it (without adding/mentioning a source; the only change from that IP ever) and nobody cared to check any facts, or is his birth name "Tim"? --82.170.113.123 (talk) 21:34, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
This article seems to be c-class quality to me, so I requested a reassessment. As a new Wikipedian I'd also like to see in what way an article like this should need to be improved to go up a class.
Hi there - I work for Tim Schafer at Double Fine, and he asked me to make a couple of changes to his wikipedia page to correct things that are incorrect, or misleading.
I'm posting here in the interests of being as transparent as possible, although I think only one of them has potential for controversy.
First up, there are several changes that involve taking *less* credit for things he is credited for in the Works section.
For instance there are a couple of star wars games listed that he believes he made no real contribution to and should not be credited for.
Regarding Monkey Island's creation:
"though it was originally conceived as having a more serious tone; Schafer and Grossman wrote much more humorous placeholder dialog, which persuaded Gilbert to turn it into a comedy."
Tim says this is simply not true.
"On March 5, 2015, Schafer hosted the 2015 Game Developer’s Choice Awards; during his speech, he criticized the #NotYourShield tag that had arisen during the Gamergate controversy, referencing the belief that it was largely composed of sockpuppets, and was immediately faced with criticism for a joke that mocked minorities.[25][26]"
This is a sort of true, but not quite true version of events. There is more to this story than meets the eye.
It is true that Tim made a joke about sock puppets at that awards ceremony, and it is true that NotYourShield was the punchline of the joke, however it is not true that the joke mocked minorities.
The Joke in question was told at the peak of the Gamergate. Both Gamergate and Notyourshield are now recognised as elements of an organised hate campaign.
It is also now recognised that notyourshield was indeed spread primarily by sockpuppet accounts, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy">which is described on wikipedia as</a>:
"To respond to widespread criticism of Gamergate as misogynistic, posters on 4chan created a second Twitter hashtag, #NotYourShield, intended to show that Gamergate was not about opposition to feminism or wanting to push women out of gaming. In the 4chan post that may have coined the hashtag, it was framed as a way to "demand the SJWs stop using you as a shield to deflect genuine criticism".[22][24][93] Many of the accounts used to tweet the tag seemed to be sockpuppets that had copied their avatars from elsewhere on the internet; the methods used to create it have been compared to #EndFathersDay, a hoax manufactured on 4chan using similar methods.[22][93]"
As this is now the recognised version of events, i think it is fair to say that the description above is incorrect.
The Facts:
The first two changes i will make now myself, this final one requires some finesse and seems too controversial for us to change ourselves.
It's time to set the record straight though! Please advise, Thank you!
Thespaff (talk) 23:46, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the above! As you say this is a touchy thing to edit and so i didn't want to touch it personally.
To be honest that last part is less important, I put it in there to illustrate the bigger picture.
The main point Tim wanted to be addressed was that he did not get up on a stage to poke fun of women and minorities as was subsequently claimed. I think the current edits that have been made do a good job of this, so thanks!
It would be interesting to try and find sources to explain how this incident and the perceived mismanaged funds incident left him with a reputation in some circles that, at least in my opinion, is pretty unfair. I'm not sure anyone has really written about that angle at any point though, and it's probably better to try and just let that stuff be! Thespaff (talk) 01:23, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
I made a few more small changes to credits today, and also to the gamergate incident. It would be great if someone could check those last ones to make sure these edits are fair and above board. Thx!Thespaff (talk) 23:30, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Oh absolutley, we'd happily freely license some studio photos of the team. Screenshots of games that we wholly own the rights to such as Psychonauts and Broken Age would be easy too. I'll keep checking back here, but if you'd like to reach out to me through email with some things in mind, it might be easier to organise? I'm spaff@doublefine.com <- that'll help verify who i am too! Thespaff (talk) 00:58, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Sounds good to me! I'll wait to hear more :) Thespaff (talk) 23:38, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
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What does this mean? I don't see anything in the associated link to clarify this statement. Surely Double Fine retained all the elements within Psychonauts 2, because if they hadn't retained them, they wouldn't be... within Psychonauts 2 anymore? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:448:C300:6E10:69FA:EC62:AA50:E734 (talk) 08:55, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Greetings!
Full disclosure - I am the director of marketing and communications at Double Fine working with Tim Schafer. He has expressed a desire to update this page a little to feel more truthful. Some of these edits relate to Gamergate, something which was controversial at the time, but since has been categorically proven to be a campaign of "fake news" and harassment. However, given that controversial element i would like to flag the elements we believe need editing for discussion rather than making them myself.
the parts in question:
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Following the event, Gamergate supporters targeted Schafer with criticism, claiming he had been making a joke that mocked minorities.Gamergate supporters also criticized Schafer claiming he had mishandled the funds of the Broken Age Kickstarter, following Schafer's decision to expand the scope of the game and seek more funding for that larger scope by offering the game's first half on early access.
It is true that supporters of gamergate criticised Tim for the mishandling of finances, but what is not reflected here is that penny of the campaign was spent on making the game Broken Age, along with a significant amount of money from Double Fine's own budget, resulting in a game of a much higher scale and quality. Mishandling of finances implies something dubious took place, but promises were fulfilled and then some.
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Since then, these coupled incidents have caused Schafer to continue to be a target of ridicule from some GamerGate supporters.
Can we please call it what it is, and change "continue to be a target of ridicule" to "occasionally remain a target of harassment"
If no one wants to talk about this, i can make those edits, but i'll leave this open to a conversation first.
I'm also going to make a couple of other very minor edits that i do not believe require a conversation, but please hit me up if you believe otherwise.
Thanks! Thespaff (talk) 21:15, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
@Loyalty-heart: as was said, COI is not inherently a reason to remove material. Can you explain your position a little more? HansVonStuttgart (talk) 16:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)