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I do not think you realise the impact of your words. As you know, I'm largely incommunicado, doing the tourist thing here in the UK right now. And yet, three separate WMF staffers (both permanent and contractor) reached out to me, pointed out your comments about reconfirmation RFAs, and were genuinely heartbroken that an arbitrator thought so little of their ability to understand the difference between their volunteer and staff actions that they should be stripped of permissions they've held for years because they've taken on employment with the WMF, and got those jobs at least in part because of their work within the community. They're still part of the community, they don't become non-Wikipedians when they become staff. It was perhaps unintentional on your part, but you've really hurt a lot of people with that. Risker (talk) 13:45, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for this, Risker. It does help to hear that, and please never feel you can't say things like that to me, or that you find it hard to say. It was, as I said over there, just a suggestion, late at night when I'd been going through the whole workshop trying to engage with what was being said there (you know how rare it is for arbitrators to do that). I should have thought more before saying that, and if any of those staffers that reached out to you are reading this, I apologise for the impact my words had on them. FWIW, I never said anyone should be 'stripped of permissions' (that was Carrite's wording - what I said can be seen here), but I can see how the re-RFA comment could have been taken in the same vein. Anyway, I'm hoping some of the discussion at the workshop will be more productive than that exchange was. I'd encourage anyone reading this to participate there and give their views. Carcharoth (talk) 14:05, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thank you for finally putting the purpose of the Workshop back to good use with the Media viewer case. Having the drafting arbitrator actually put their working notes on the Workshop and not bulk post the "immaculate idea" in bulk on the Proposed Decision is very good for us to help craft a good final decision. Hasteur (talk) 05:23, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Dear Carcharoth, please see this polite request, and provide a positive thoughtful response there, if you have one. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:57, 9 August 2014 (UTC).

Thanks for the note, Rich. The timing's not great. I'm going to be out most of today and tomorrow and away from the computer. When I get back, I have other matters to attend to that will take up most of my time. I would suggest that you provide links at what you have posted, as not all arbs will remember which case you are referring to. Carcharoth (talk) 07:42, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

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The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:

1. Godot13 (submissions), a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
2. Casliber (submissions) is a WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist every year since 2010. In the semi-final, he was Pool B's highest scorer. Cas's points primarily come from articles on the natural sciences.
3. Czar (submissions) was Pool A's runner-up. Czar's points come mostly from content related to independent video games, including both articles and topics.
4. Adam Cuerden (submissions) was Pool B's runner-up. Another featured picture specialist, many of Adam's points come from the restoration of historical media. He has been a WikiCup finalist twice before.
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7. Sturmvogel 66 (submissions), the third wildcard, was the 2010 champion and a finalist last year. His writes mostly on military history, especially naval history.
8. Bloom6132 (submissions), the fourth and final wildcard, has participated in previous WikiCups, but not reached any finals. Bloom's points are mostly thanks to did you knows, featured lists and good articles related to sport and national symbols.

We say goodbye to this year's semi-finalists. Matty.007 (submissions), ThaddeusB (submissions), WikiRedactor (submissions), Figureskatingfan (submissions), Yellow Evan (submissions), Prism (submissions) and Cloudz679 (submissions) have all performed well to reach this stage of the competition, and we hope they will all be joining us again next year.

There are two upcoming competitions unrelated to the WikiCup which may be of interest to those who receive this newsletter. The Stub Contest will run through September, and revolves around expanding stub articles, especially high-importance or old stubs. In addition, a proposal has been made for a new competition, the GA Cup, which the organisers plan to run next year. This competition is based on the WikiCup and aims to reduce the good article review backlog.

There is now a thread for brainstorming on how next year's WikiCup competition should work. Please come along and share your thoughts- What works? What doesn't work? What needs changing? Signups for next year's competition will be open soon; we will be in touch. If, at this stage of the competition, you are keen to help the with the WikiCup, please do what you can to participate in review processes. Our finalists will find things much easier if the backlogs at good article candidates, featured article candidates, featured picture candidates and the rest are kept at a minimum. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk · contribs) The ed17 (talk · contribs) and Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 22:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, was not online for most of the weekend, and before I decamped I unwatchlisted a lot of pages and turned off notifications. I have just seen your message on Jimmy's talk page, but it is now well past my bedtime and I will not be able to address your request tonight. I will do my best to do so tomorrow evening. Risker (talk) 04:17, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, and for striking through at Jimmy's talk page. I may come back to this later, but not for some time as there is quite a bit to think about. Carcharoth (talk) 00:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I saw this which I very much appreciate. But given that it's one of the more obscure articles on Wikipedia and one of the more obscure "claims" (which I got wrong), I just wanted to say thanks for the double-over-obscure-correction. If there was a barnstar, you'd get it. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:41, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

No problem, it was a pleasure to be able to help out on a matter of local geography. I only became aware of the article through the notifications systems, as it notified me that you had linked to an article I had created (that hotel article) - some of those notifications I've not always followed up, though I did it again recently when someone linked to the Norman Moore disambiguation page and I was able to fix that as well. I was going to say the Boat Race never went as far as Richmond, but then I thought I'd better check out the history. It was fascinating to learn that there were two Boat Races that year! Carcharoth (talk) 00:58, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

I was just looking at this article when I noticed that it had been almost entirely copied from the ODNB. I've now deleted the offending material, but on looking through the article history to see who had inserted it I noticed that you had welcomed Doughan – who created the article – and claimed to know him in real life. Is it perhaps the David Doughan who wrote the ODNB article? I know it doesn't really matter, as the copyright sits with the Oxford University Press rather than with Doughan, I'm simply curious. Eric Corbett 15:09, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Eric. Thanks for spotting and cleaning up that article. I believe it is the same David Doughan who authored that ODNB article, though I would have to check with him to be certain. I do know David, though I never actually followed up the welcome message I left him, and I see this was eight years ago now. I see he has also edited as User:David Doughan. He has about 50 edits under each account and doesn't appear to edit very often. Not quite sure what follow up is needed here. I may be seeing him tomorrow or the following weekend, and will try and mention this to him if I get the chance. Carcharoth (talk) 08:29, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

The only follow up that may be needed I suppose is to remove the copyrighted material from the page history, but I'm no expert. In any event, everything that's there now has been rewritten from scratch, so there's no real problem so far as I can see. Eric Corbett 13:08, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the image. Do you like its inclusion? I need the line again: Erhard Egidi died who taught me Bach. I am probably not a reliable source, silently play Epitaphium. Hear also Cantiones sacrae (Schütz) (I thought of him when I wrote it.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

On the day of the funeral, I got another Magnificat started, Magnificat in E-flat major, BWV 243a, more to come. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

The German Main page shows a Strauss Lied you may know, Traum durch die Dämmerung, including my motto "Ich gehe nicht schnell, ich eile nicht" (I do not go quickly, I do not hurry) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:50, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new Featured and A-Class content Book reviews: Hawkeye7 looks at the military history of Austria-Hungary Timeleine: This month in World War I

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election, which will determine our coordinators for the next twelve months. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 22:06, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

In one month's time, we will know our WikiCup 2014 champion. Newcomer Godot13 (submissions) has taken a strong lead with a featured list (historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876) and a raft of featured pictures. Reigning champion Cwmhiraeth (submissions) is in second place with a number of high-importance biology articles, including new FA Isopoda and new GA least weasel. Casliber (submissions), who is in his fifth WikiCup final, is in third, with featured articles Pictor and Epacris impressa.

Signups for the 2015 WikiCup are open. All Wikipedians, new and experienced, are warmly invited to sign up for the competition. Wikipedians interested in friendly competition may also like to sign up for the GA Cup, a new WikiCup-inspired competition which revolves around completing good article reviews. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk · contribs) The ed17 (talk · contribs) and Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 22:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC)