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Just letting you know that I declined your WP:A10 nomination of Patrick Treacy (physician) because there's an ongoing merge discussion and the article contains possible mergable information - The article is more detailed than the existing article, so it's better to let the merge discussion finish to determine what content should be saved. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 03:38, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Dclemens1971! I noticed you marked the article Kashinath Seth Bank as reviewed around the same time as nominating it for speedy deletion. Although articles nominated for deletion via AFD may be marked as reviewed, articles nominated for speedy deletion should not be. In the case of AFD articles, if they are kept, they will clearly meet NPP's standards; conversely, if an admin declines a CSD, the article may not meet those standards and could be draftified, brought to AFD, or PRODed. I have gone ahead and deleted the article, but I wanted to let you know about reviewing such articles for future reference. :) Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:20, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade OK, I think I need to adjust some Twinkle settings because I am not manually marking any CSD nominees as reviewed. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:15, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hmmm... interesting! Good to know. :) That also makes more sense because it was marked as reviewed basically at the same time it was nominated for deletion. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 04:17, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dclemens1971 - I saw that you recently BLARed Dry Fork, Utah as non-notable and I would like some advice. As part of my unreferenced pages monitoring I came across Oak Creek, Utah, created by the same editor, which seems similarly non-notable. However, I am by no means an expert on the geography of unincorporated communities in the U.S. and would be grateful for any advice as to appropriate sources to try. Nothing immediately useful comes to light on Google, and I can't find the feature in USGS which I see is used as a source in similar articles. Thanks in advance for your help! Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 13:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SunloungerFrog I think you are on safe ground to WP:BOLDly BLAR that article (I would recommend to Sanpete_County,_Utah#Unincorporated_communities). Unincorporated places are not presumptively notable under WP:NGEO and are thus required to meet WP:GNG, which requires secondary sources beyond GNIS/Google Maps/database sources. If it's contested (I doubt it will be as the page creator is blocked), no harm in proceeding to a deletion discussion, or maybe the BLAR triggers another editor to find sufficient sources before restoring. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please take this to WP:AfD. It's located (not literally but figuratively) at the intersection of Think of the children and A Whole Bunch of Wikipedians are Neurodivergent. If that's not potentially controversial, then I don't know what could be. Also, Merry Christmas! Bearian (talk) 10:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New page patrollers have always been encouraged to constructively peer-review each other's work, but having encountered this editor at AfD, I checked out her page reviewing (and then followed her to PERM to criticise it) begins to sound more like hounding. – Joe (talk) 10:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Joe Roe Thanks for the note. To clarify the sequence, I came to PERM to search for an unrelated archived request, and while there I saw her request and the discussion at the top. I recognized the editor's username from the previous AfD where I had observed a confused/misguided understanding of source analysis, particularly for a new page patroller, and so I decided to do a spot check. Not following anyone around! Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:30, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Joe Roe And I'll ask here rather than go off-topic at PERM, but I am curious about your comment about draftification. The MoveToDraft script has It needs more sources to establish notability as a standard reason for draftification, and the reasons for draftification at WP:DRAFTYES are "not limited to" to the three reasons currently listed. I have indeed draftified articles within the 90-day window if their sources do not indicate that the subject is notable. If this is against consensus, there should be probably be clearer instructions at WP:DRAFTNO and the script should be updated. What are your thoughts? Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the clarification. That is indeed a much less worrying timeline.

Yes the discrepancies between the draft script and WP:DRAFTIFY is a long-running problem. There's two sides to it. One is the script itself, which has a slightly odd list of reasons but which only the maintainer can change. The other is that the list at WP:DRAFTYES is missing some common reasons that have an unclear status w.r.t to community consensus. I've suggested that we organise an RfC to add these, but haven't got around to doing so yet.

WP:DRAFTYES is not exhaustive, as it says, so there's nothing wrong with people draftifying for other reasons as long as they are not on WP:DRAFTNO and are otherwise consistent with policy. I personally have never been able to square the script's it needs more sources to establish notability option with WP:NEXIST and WP:REFBOMB, but others disagree. My comment on WP:DRAFTYES above was specifically in the context of reviewing others' reviewing, i.e. it's fair enough to draftify things for reasons not on the list, but not to criticise others for not doing so, if that makes sense. – Joe (talk) 13:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, @Joe Roe. I am just a regular editor, but as you mentioned, in some cases, @Dclemens1971 seems to act in a way that could be considered hounding. 24eeWikiUser (talk) 17:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@24eeWikiUser: I responded three weeks ago to your accusation above. I came across your articles in my feed in the course of routine new page reviewing, and several of them I marked as reviewed and did not nominate for deletion because I determined they met the standard (diff, diff, diff, diff). Hounding is a significant violation of Wikipedia practices and norms, and I would appreciate it if you would provide diffs that substantiate your accusation instead of repeating it. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971, I repeated after Joe because, even 4 days ago we were discussing on my talk page about your nominations to pages I wrote. It might not be hounding but without being careful, some acts can be considered as one. 24eeWikiUser (talk) 19:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you @Benison, the same to you! Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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	Hello Dclemens, warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. May your heart and home be filled with all of the joys the festive season brings. Here is a toast to a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!. scope_creepTalk 14:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And a Merry Christmas to you as well @Scope creep! Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pbritti (talk) 23:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas to you too @Pbritti! See you around the project in 2025! Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking forward to asking for your input on a few Virginia and Anglican interest articles coming soon! ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Abishe (talk) 00:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article, Nande Mabala, meets Wikipedia's citation guidelines and is supported by reliable and verifiable references. If there's any changes requiring special attention, please highlight. I believe the article follows Wikipedia's policies, including neutrality, verification, and reliable research. The News24 and Independent Online are reliable enough. There's even enough verification on Miss South Africa 2023 Horizons2025 (talk) 11:49, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've been quite clear in the discussion that I don't agree that sourcing that consists solely of an interview with the subject or tabloid coverage counts for establishing notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please revisit the article now that the interview sources were removed. Please let me know where else requires improvements. Horizons2025 (talk) 06:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

for your nomination, and your kind words in support of it. Saratoga Sam (talk) 23:42, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

		The Christianity Barnstar
		Great work on creating the The Three Worlds of Evangelicalism article. Not many essays are individually notable but this one is and you did a good job explaining its significance. StAnselm (talk) 19:37, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]