User talk:Guy Harris/Archives/2017/11

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Hi Guy, I would like to ask for a subsection on the recent issues associated with iOS v11. These issues have received wide media and news coverage and cannot be ignored. Since Wikipedia is public information, we should include what is out there, taking a neutral view and not taking sides. Please respond to my talk page. Thank you. Fellow007 (talk) 21:43, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

@Fellow007: If you want something in iOS 11, put it there. Guy Harris (talk) 21:55, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

@Guy Harris: Thanks and yes I just did that. Fellow007 (talk) 00:28, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

@Guy Harries: We have an issue with Darius robin who removed the writeup on problems with iOS v11 without justification. Can we request he be blocked from editing that page? Fellow007 (talk) 16:31, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

@Fellow007: Haha lol, you must be joking. Guy Harris, please take a look on my talk page for my reasoning. My reverts are fully justified. Darius robin (talk) 16:34, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

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This editor here is opposing the change to “macOS”. Any ideas?–Totie (talk) 13:03, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

@Totie:I assume he's referring to the comment by Masem here:

I would also affirm that when referring to systems that editors should consistently use within an article the name of the release system at the point of the game's release, rather than the updated name. This is the whole OS X/MacOS situation that I've seen editors updating 5-8 year old games to change "OS X" to "macOS". We can all blame Apple for its stupid naming system but this is the best way for us to handle it. --MASEM (t) 16:54, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

and to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 182#RFC on unifying "OS X" and "macOS"; for the RFC, my position is closest to  SMcCandlish's - I tend to use "Mac OS X" and "OS X" in statements about the OS or the world at a point in time when the OS happened to have one of those names, and to use "macOS" in general statements independent of time and in statements about the OS or the world at a point in time when the OS happens to have that name.

So, for GOG.com, I'd say "macOS" in the lede as long as they're still shipping games for Apple's UNIX-for-Macs, and probably leave "OS X" in the "OS X and Linux support" section. I would not listen to arguments that "hey, the games work on OS X, too, because they run on Yosemite" because that way lies listing two or three names for the Same Damn Operating System. The statement that

Those older games weren't released on MacOS, they were released on OS X, a slight technical difference

really means "these older games weren't released on Apple's UNIX-for-Macs when the official name for that OS was "macOS", they were released on Apple's UNIX-for-Macs when the official name for that OS was "OS X", a slight difference that's not "technical" in any sense involving software technology but that's "technical" in a language sense" - there's no technical difference between macOS and OS X and Mac OS X, they're just three different names for a single OS; there are technical differences between releases of that OS, but that's independent of the name under which they are released. There are technical differences between OS X Yosemite and OS X El Capitan, just as there are technical differences between OS X El Capitan and macOS Sierra, so it's not as if you had to do something different as a result of the name change in order to support macOS Sierra. Guy Harris (talk) 17:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect OS X v10.10. Since you had some involvement with the OS X v10.10 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. --Nevé–selbert 21:01, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Opes, I'm sorry, I was just trying to eliminate what should be an obvious redundancy, but it looks like I messed up a reference in the process without noticing at first that it was a reference. It's too bad we can't correct those. While I have you here, do you think I could get a favor from you, please? Will you check out my edit history from yesterday (Nov. 4) and notice that there are some articles about cats, dogs, GPSs, and colleges, which I did a lot of work to correct the problems in (redundancies, mainly), and someone has come along and destroyed my work. I don't know why for sure; it's like some sort of vendetta or something. I don't know why he'd be targeting me, though. Do we report him, or... what? IF I just put those edits back right away, I could get accused of edit-warring, right? I've started discussions on some of those talk pages. Maybe you'd like to contribute to the discussions and even restore my edits? I don't know where to go from here. What do you suppose the next step should be? Thayve Sintar (talk) 09:24, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

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Past tense of the verb 'to fit' is either fit or fitted. Fitted is simply more common. Dan100 (Talk) 20:37, 16 November 2017 (UTC) Dan100 (Talk) 20:37, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

@Dan100:The examples given in the online OED page for "fit" for that particular case - "1.2 [no object, with adverbial of place] Be of the right size, shape, or number to occupy a particular place." all use "fit". [citation needed] on "fitted" being more common for that particular case. Guy Harris (talk) 21:47, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect usage; the object is the code. Look at section 2. Dan100 (Talk) 22:45, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

I'm going to make a guess that you're American. I'm British. Dan100 (Talk) 22:47, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

In "The finished interpreter, including its own I/O system and line editor, fit in only four kilobytes of memory", the subject of the verb is "the finished interpreter", i.e. the code; cf. the OED example "Fiona says we can all fit in her car". "in only four kilobytes of memory" is the "adverbial [phrase] of place". Guy Harris (talk) 23:27, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

You edited some references in Chaitin's algorithm, but you kept an apparent WP:COPYLINK violation. Random home directories and course directories are dubious. Glrx (talk) 17:18, 29 November 2017 (UTC)