Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joel E Ferris High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep per WP:SNOW, non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 18:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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No references provided to support notability. Article contains only one sentence, which doesn't provide any special events or supporting notability. ZooFari 05:43, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Articles do not have to use references to pass WP:N. The subject clearly is notable, per this [google news] search which turns up literally thousands of articles in reliable newspapers which discuss this high school. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 05:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. It's a public high school and it's a work in progress. OtisJimmyOne 05:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Sufficient text is lacking to support notability to me. If it was as Jayron32 asserts, I'd like to see that in the article. The link he provided could be used as a reference. ZooFari 05:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Zoofari, please read the Before nominating an article for deletion section of WP:AFD which states, clearly "When nominating an article for deletion due to sourcing or notability concerns, make a good-faith attempt to confirm that such sources aren't likely to exist." In other words, type the article name into google before assuming that a stub cannot be sourced. It took me no longer than 30 seconds to do the google search; it most definately took you longer to list this at AFD than it would have for you to perform a similar search and find the sources yourself. Please, in the future, at least do basic due dilligence rather than assuming that a stub is non-notable merely for being a stub. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 12:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 11:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 11:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep In as much as I disagree with the reasoning that high schools are inherently notable, community consensus has been to keep High School articles. Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 13:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. As stated above, I might not like the criteria, but it meets them. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - AfDing a high school page just 6 minutes after creation is, simply, unacceptable. This was the first contribution by the creator - what encouragement does this send to him/her? Many good contributors start out by writing an article on their high school. The better way forward, surely, is to provide the editor with advice on sourcing etc? Oh, and BTW, plenty of sources are available. TerriersFan (talk) 16:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• The {{construction}} template is quite useful. I always leave notes on talk pages of the user, but maybe I was a little over-peevy about this one, generally because it was a high school. ZooFari 16:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Per TerriersFan and others. The article needs expansion not deletion.--Cube lurker (talk) 16:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep If it is verifiably a high school, as shown above, then per past practice it gets kept. In every case I have seen it is possible to find many independent and reliable sources with significant and substantial coverage of a highschool and the goings-on there, as well as its achievements or lack thereof in academics and sports. Edison (talk) 18:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - The nom has only given reasons to improve the article, not delete it.--Oakshade (talk) 18:42, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• How do I cancel this out? ZooFari 18:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.