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Category:Entertainment events in Massachusetts

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Category:Skin names

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:09, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, only one article in the category, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:40, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Substack writers

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Category:Mayors by country and century

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:10, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navgiation Mason (talk) 20:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Decompression practice

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A category of redirects Gjs238 (talk) 15:54, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge the pages to Diving decompression. This category isn't helpful if it's predominantly redirects. Mason (talk) 21:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What makes a category that is predominantly redirects not helpful? · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 05:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Categories are meant to link related articles between them. That's the only thing they're useful for: be a navigation tool. Categories made of redirect do not show up at the bottom of the articles. There are some exceptional cases in which they can be useful, per WP:RCAT, but most of the time this should be avoided if possible. Place Clichy (talk) 08:33, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How does one find out which subtopics are covered in existing articles when the redirects to them are excluded from categories? · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 01:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Human-derived fictional species

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Category:Births circa 1580

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Category:1480 births in England

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not defining intersection between birth and location of birth Mason (talk) 17:56, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Film actresses by genre

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as applicable. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between era of film/genre and gender Mason (talk) 17:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films produced by David Chan

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need for a category with just a single page Mason (talk) 16:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dominican Republic people of European American descent

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Writers and broadcasters

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: split/rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:19, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose splitting
  • Propose renaming
Nominator's rationale: Sportswriters and sports broadcasters have their own seperate categories. These should be split between them. And rename the lists categories because they are misleading; they are all lists of broadcasters, not writers and broadcasters. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:14, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom Mason (talk) 17:07, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question should Category:Horse racing announcers be Category:Horse racing commentators? The main category is Category:Sports commentators. TSventon (talk) 15:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TSventon, if you take a look at Category:Sports commentators by sport (a subcat of Category:Sports commentators) and you will note that no one term is applied uniformly. In this case, the content of the category shows two national categories with "announcers" while the other two are "writers and broadcasters" and "race callers". I chose to rename it to "announcers" since that was repeated more (Category:American horse racing announcers and Category:Canadian horse racing announcers).
In any case, this nomination is about splitting sportswriters and commentators into seperate categories, and clearly not about whether the term "broadcasters", "announcers", or "commentators" should be used. That is a VERY different discussion and, if you want, we can discuss it that AFTER this Cfd is closed. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:34, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would note that there is, in fact, already seperate Cfd open on the matter. So please keep the "should it be announcers or commentators" questions to that one. Making this enquiry here risks derailing this Cfd which, as I mentioned above, is about splitting sportswriters and broadcasters, not renaming "commentators" to "announcers". That is a seperate conversation. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:48, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Omnis Scientia, I am suggesting that Category:Lists of horse racing writers and broadcasters should be renamed to Category:Lists of horse racing commentators, which is relevant to this topic. Of the lists in the category, 5 mention commentators, 4 broadcasters and none announcers. I am trying to be brief to avoid derailing the discussion.
I have looked at Category:Sports commentators by sport and it should probably be made more consistent. TSventon (talk) 22:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TSventon, the only thing to ask here is whether you support the purpose of this nomination. I'll change the name for the "List" category but I won't for the main category. I have given my reasons for why I chose "announcers" and I think that I went about it the right way. Which term to use should be dealt seperately.
@Smasongarrison, what do you think? Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to defer to Omnis on this, their reasoning is sound. Mason (talk) 14:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TSventon, would appreciate you clearing up whether you are for or against this nomination. I think it is quite fair when I say that we can open a Cfd on what horse race callers are called after this Cfd is done. Because the sooner this one is wrapped up, the faster we can get to that. If you support it please say so and if you are neutral, please say that. Thank you. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:07, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SportingFlyer, I'll also tag you for your opinion here since you commented on a (sort of) related Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support all but let's use the term commentators more uniformly if possible. SportingFlyer T·C 10:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SportingFlyer, for the time being I will change it to "commentator" but I think there will have to be another Cfd discussing which term should be used. There is a lot inconsistancy in Category:Sports commentators. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support all but let's use the term commentators more uniformly if possible (per SportingFlyer). TSventon (talk) 13:05, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:FIBA Europe Championship navigational boxes

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Category:Libraries by year of establishment

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:27, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting :
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCYEAR: avoid creating a category tree of individual by year categories with very few members, So for example, instead of grouping by year, group by decade. And then diffuse the by decade categories by year only when necessary. This tree doesn't need to be diffused by year for the nominated categories. Upmerge. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have no objection to the upmerge, but I think we should add the "Category:
Educational organizations established i1XXX" to the upmerge since those categories also have very few items (all the random categories I checked had only the libraries established in as content).DGtal (talk) 21:47, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you, but think it'd be better served by a separate discussion. However, I won't object to doing that in this discussion if consensus agrees. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:57, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete decade categories?
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Category:Iraqi revolt of 1920

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Category:Alt-right politicians in the United Kingdom

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Category:Paleolibertarianism

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The result of the discussion was: purge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: purge biographies per WP:OPINIONCAT, and per precedent (1 2 3). Marcocapelle (talk) 08:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fiction set on centaurs (small Solar System bodies)

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fiction about the Solar System. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too small and overspecific to be necessary as of yet. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fiction about minor planets

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT with no reason for such detailed subcategorization. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:45, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fiction about terrestrial planets

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Category:Fictional teams

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Seems to be something of a WP:SHAREDNAME situation. Why do we have to classify as "teams", specifically, as a subset of organizations? Sports teams have absolutely nothing to do with superhero teams, and it's a stretch to even call Santa Claus's reindeer a "team". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:13, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional ethnic groups

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, there is too little distinction between the two categories since most fictional characters are humanoid at least to some extent. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians interested in SOS (game)

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function. Really "Wikipedians who play SOS (paper-and-pencil game)". * Pppery * it has begun... 03:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:MBTA bus routes

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority and Category:Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. It is not a speedy rename because of List of MBTA bus routes. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ozarks Mountaineers football seasons

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one redirect. Let'srun (talk) 02:11, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bus routes in the Boston area

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one entry. The sole subcat is already in a subcat of the other parent so a merge isn't needed. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:00, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Accidents and incidents involving the Beechcraft Bonanza

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Beechcraft aircraft. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category lacks articles. Let'srun (talk) 01:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from East Boston, Boston

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Avoid redundant titling, C2D per East Boston. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:29, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Daejeon Samsung Bluefangs

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: With only the parent article and the players subcategory, this category adds an unnecessary layer which impedes on navigational usefulness. If kept, should be renamed to Category:Daejeon Samsung Fire Bluefangs. ✗plicit 00:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Actors from the Golden Age of Hollywood

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per a previous CfD in 2019. Much too broad as inclusion only seems to be determined by a year. I am not sure why the actresses subcategory wasn’t included in the earlier discussion so I am adding both here for a new discussion rather than request a G4 speedy. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:35, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Books by Indian authors

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Category:Roman roads in Syria and Palestina

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge for now to all parent categories, only one article in the category. This is without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose The nomination is inaccurate. There are three articles in this category, not one. Dimadick (talk) 21:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Volunteer execution

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 20:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: non-defining: I don't think that being a Volunteer (capital punishment) is a defining feature of any of the people in these categories. Mason (talk) 03:43, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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