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"...officially known as the III Olympic Winter Games, was an international multi-sport event..." ==> 'were' instead of was?
"These games were the first time that the Winter Games were held outside of Europe, with the prior Winter Games being held in Chamonix, France, and St. Moritz, Switzerland" ==> "These Winter Games were the first held outside of Europe, with prior editions held in Chamonix, France, and St. Moritz, Switzerland"
"Hungary's team won their first Winter Olympic medal of any color," ==> is 'of any color' not implied by the part of the sentence immediately following this one?
"...tied for the most gold medals won for an individual at the games, with two gold medals" ==> the second 'gold medals' is redundant
"Bobsledder Eddie Eagan of the United States became the first and only person to win a gold medal at the Summer Olympics and Winter Olympics..." ==> That's not true: Gillis Grafström had already done this (figure skating in 1920 Summer Olympics and then 1924 Winter Olympics), but Eagan was the first to win gold medals in different disciplines. I'd tweak the sentence above and then add a footnote to mention Grafström (for example, "Bobsledder Eddie Eagan of the United States became the first and only person to win a gold medal in different events at the Summer and Winter Olympics,..." with a footnote like "Gillis Grafström also won gold in both the Summer and Winter Olympic Games but in the same event: figure skating, which had been contested in the 1920 Summer Olympic Games."
"...after winning the gold medal in the four-man event at these games and winning the gold medal in the men's light heavyweight event in boxing at the previously held 1920 Summer Olympics in Antwerp, Belgium" ==> "...after winning the gold medal in the four-man event at these games and in the men's light heavyweight event in boxing at the 1920 Summer Olympics in Antwerp, Belgium"
Infobox
"Jack Shea of the United States tied for most gold medals won at the 1932 Winter Olympics, winning two gold medals in men's speed skating." ==> second 'gold medals' also redundant here i feel
"Instructions to use De Baillet-Latour's version of the practice were sent out by the IOC to the organizing committees of the 1932 Summer Olympics and 1932 Winter Olympics, with Shea becoming the first Olympic champion to be awarded a medal on top of a podium after winning the gold medal at the men's 500 metres event in speed skating." ==> This sentence is very long and could be split in two: "Instructions to use De Baillet-Latour's version of the practice were sent out by the IOC to the organizing committees of the 1932 Summer Olympics and 1932 Winter Olympics. Shea became the first Olympic champion to be awarded a medal on top of a podium after winning the gold medal at the men's 500 metres event in speed skating"
Other
The page number for Martin&Gynn is not necessary in the bibliography since it's already in the sfn.
With 1983 having just been promoted and 1984 in a good place, here's 1985. Number ones this year included a charity juggernaut which just recently got a bunch of publicity for its 40th anniversary..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:14, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have returned with another sports list, but this time in an entirely new category: American soccer draft picks. I was inspired by the FLs on NFL draft picks by team and decided to create an equivalent from scratch; the MLS SuperDraft historically had importance for roster-building, but has largely become a clearing house for reserve players these days. The list quickly describes the draft procedures and history while devoting most of its space to standardized tables divided by year. SounderBruce05:04, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Back to an Indian state this time. I’ve improved the lead and table accessibility. The state has only existed for about 10 years, which is why its history isn’t complicated enough to deserve its own section. This would be the second FL within the ambit of Wikipedia:WikiProject Telangana. Similar recent FLs: MP and Punjab. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:56, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is Olympic medal table #8 for me (Summer Games nom #5). It was the first Olympic Games held in a communist country (USSR) which caused a massive boycott by 60+ countries, leading to Soviet domination of the event. It was an interesting one for me to research. As always, I will do my best to respond to all comments as quickly as possible, and I appreciate any and all feedback that is given. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:43, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Some templates actually include the row and column scopes, making it unnecessary/redundant to define them in the tables. This is part of what the award tables template does.
Added alt text to third image
Hm, I could have sworn I didn't pick that word for no reason, but I can't seem to find a ref that phrases it close enough for my comfort. I've changed it to "large-scale" instead
In the caption of the Alexander Dityatin image, italicize "pictured in 2018".
You can probably move the ref after 80 National Olympic Committees (NOCs) participated to right before the next ref after 1956.
there was a two-way tie for first and a two-way tie for third - maybe rewrite as "there were two-way ties for first and third". Or "...for first and third, respectively"
"This was the fewest number of participating NOCs since 1956,[4] which included seven teams making their Olympic debut at the Summer Games; Angola,[5] Botswana,[6] Cyprus,[7], Jordan,[8] Laos,[9] Mozambique,[10] and Seychelles" - the ordering makes this a bit hard to parse. I'd suggest maybe "This included seven teams making their Olympic debut at the Summer Games; Angola,[5] Botswana,[6] Cyprus,[7], Jordan,[8] Laos,[9] Mozambique,[10] and Seychelles, but was the smallest number of participating NOCs since 1956.[4]" (note also the change from "fewest number" to "smallest number" - "fewest number" doesn't work grammatically)
The image caption doesn't need "(pictured)" as obviously it's him pictured
"bronze medals being awarded to each of the competitors who lost their semi-final matches, as opposed to taking part in a third place tiebreaker." => "bronze medals being awarded to each of the competitors who lost their semi-final matches, as opposed to them taking part in a third place tiebreaker."
The references as the last row looks a bit odd. Maybe you can move each ref to after the year that it corresponds to in the respective header cell. so it becomes "2024[4][5]".
Most of the refs are missing archive links. Use [1].
"Greater Toronto Area (GTA)", since you refer to GTA later.
Is there a good wikilink for "Destination Toronto"?
A phrase to explain Bib Gourmand would be nice.
Also, I guess you are going to be nominating Michelin-star lists for FL for some time. If so, you can consider making a template that includes the color as well as the stars. That would guarantee consistency across all lists. This advice isn't a showstopper for this list though. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:08, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done, except archive bot is lagging very badly and won't work for me and I couldn't find a wikilink for Destination Toronto. I put in a request for the template you suggested. History6042😊(Contact me)15:00, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I find it quite good, although most of the materials I used are in Chinese, and there is relatively little information on this topic in English. Min968 (talk) 06:48, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell; most of yours have them but a couple are missing.
Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | scope=row style="text-align:center"|'''[[Hongwu]]''' becomes ! scope=row style="text-align:center"|'''[[Hongwu]]'''. If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. This is not a full review, and does not result in a support vote. --PresN12:51, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have been working on this article, I had previously FLC'd it but withdrew as I had forgotten about the FLC got too busy with real life stuff but at the spur of the moment I am now reopening it. I've added all sourcing from my previous source review and fixed some other sourcing issues. For whoever does the source review, I am waiting on a source for "Clap Sum" to be approved as of 1/30/2025 It’s been dealt with. Thanks, Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥07:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey everyone, I'm back with another episode list, this one for the Grey's spin-off series Station 19. This is a series that I absolutely adore both for its connection to Grey's Anatomy as well as its storytelling and representation. After an expansion of the lead and a cleanup of templates and sources, I believe that this list is more than comprehensive enough to be added to be featured quality. TheDoctorWho(talk)18:58, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Production codes unsources. You can usually find them on the WGA website.
I understand that the ratings graph can only hold up to 100 episodes, but why are the ratings tables split?
Season headings need prose
"Station 19 is an American action and procedural drama created by Stacy McKee and based on Grey's Anatomy" As in an adaptation? Clarify that its a spin off
"who had since been cast in the spin-off as a series regular" wording seems off here
Private Practice has the years it aired next to it while Grey's Anatomy doenst. Any reason for this?
@OlifanofmrTennant: "based on" was in reference to the actual credit within the show, but given that you weren't the only person it confused, I've clarified this.
When you say "Season headings need prose" are you referring to a summary of the season's arcs, similar to what's done with DW articles? This show doesn't exactly follow the same format, its "arcs" can span anywhere from two to three episodes, or often begin in one season and end in another, which makes it harder to summarize in the same format. This series also has a large ensemble cast of 15 members, compared to the 2–5 present at one time in DW, which would quickly turn into excessiveness. I'll also point out that these types of summaries aren't the standard for LoE pages, even FL's which can be seen by a quick glance of similar lists at WP:FL. A few simply list the broadcast dates, but that also feels unnecessary given the series overview and the table itself.
As for the ratings graph, you've answered your own question. The table physically won't display if there are more than 100 episodes, and this series has well... 105. It was either split or exclude, wasn't sure which way was better here. IA Bot has also been a bit buggy lately with adding archive links lately, but I confirm that most are in the Wayback machine. I can manually add the remaining if it's a requirement for support, though? TheDoctorWho(talk)06:18, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@OlifanofmrTennant: Apologies, I meant to say that the graph won't display if there's over 100. The purpose of {{Television ratings graph}} existing (to me anyways) is the graph. The ratings already exist in the episode table, so if only the table was to be displayed, I'd just remove the second template altogether for duplication of information. So to get the graph to display, I had to split in two. Everything has archive links now. TheDoctorWho(talk)04:26, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"based on Grey's Anatomy," - I don't think it's really "based on" it, as that would suggest it is a remake of Grey's
"were also held as mid-seasons replacements" => "were also held as mid-season replacements"
"Its premise was first introduced trough" - last word is spelt wrong
"Stefania Spampinato also stars as Dr. Carina DeLuca, who was also first introduced in Grey's Anatomy" - I would move this to before "the remainder". it feels a bit odd to list the rest of the initial cast, then mention people who joined later, and then randomly mention Spampinato
"Rhimes production company." => "Rhimes' production company."
"Rhimes as showrunners, the two had also been co-showrunners on Grey's Anatomy" - comma should be a semi-colon
"Vernoff was also overseeing production Grey's Anatomy" => "Vernoff was also overseeing production of Grey's Anatomy"
@History6042: Addressed everything other the last two, per MOS:DATERANGE "Dates in month–day–year format require a comma after the day, as well as after the year, unless followed by other punctuation" which is the case here. This comma format is also built into the {{Aired episodes}} template and applies automatically, it's essentially used on every Wikipedia List of Episode page I've come across, including other featured lists. TheDoctorWho(talk)06:18, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The WGA has a different production order than currently listed from The Futon Critic, and I'm not sure which is accurate. Might be better to omit that column entirely for now (if it just matches the broadcast order, it's pretty redundant).
If The Futon Critic links remain, give the references in each table the same name so they will combine correctly. You just need to make sure the references match exactly to avoid an error (see H:CERDK).
"airing on the American Broadcasting Company" sounds clunky – perhaps "aired by the American Broadcasting Company"? (could just be me)
"the ninth entry in Shondaland" – this isn't a shared universe, so "entry" isn't a good word; just say something like "the ninth series produced by Shondaland"
Last paragraph in the lead is unnecessary; just add the only new detail (105 episodes total) somewhere else and cut that sentence
Show titles in "Main article" links should be un-italicized (WP:ITHAT)
Are episodes named after songs? I couldn't find a source confirming that, but it sure seems like they are – might be a nice detail for the lead (only if you can find a source).
@RunningTiger123: I compared WGA and TFC side by side for all 105, it appears that the production codes were actually the same, but that whoever originally built the templates didn't input the information correctly. The only discrepancy I found was in season 4 between episodes 11 and 14. That has been rectified.
The ref for the electorate column is just the constituency map/list and doesn't mention the voters per constituency at all.
Done
The ref is for 2019 but says it is for 2024.
Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
Done
Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! Year becomes !scope=col | Year. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
Done
This isn't done for the second header row of the history table. Also, if you decide to keep this table, then check my comment about colgroup.
Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | 1987 becomes !scope=row | 1987 (on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
Fixed
Not fixed in the main table.
Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
I would move the reservation color to the reservation column.
Done
The history section doesn't mention anything after 1974.
Added more contents to it.
I think you'll have to at least mention the latest delimitation (in 2008). The history section duplicates a lot of the things in the table of that section. I would suggest that you remove the table and use those refs in the text of that section (if not already done).
A lot of refs are missing their archive links.
Still missing.
Very few things in the lead are referenced.
Fixed
"The Scheduled Tribes have been granted a reservation of 12 seats in the assembly" and "12 constituencies are reserved for people of the Bhutia-Lepcha (BL) community." are somewhat duplicated sentences. The same applies to the sentences about the Scheduled Castes. Also it needs to be explained why Bhutia-Lepcha (BL) is the same as Scheduled Tribes.
Fixed I apologies for the confusion.
Both ST and BL are mentioned without an explanation for the equivalence between the two.
I am nominating this for featured list because... I believe it has the potential to be a featured list, as the list itself, as well as the prose and lead, have been extensively organized and expanded upon compared to what it once was. However, I'm still open to suggestions on how to further improve the article. - OpalYosutebito (talk) 14:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The captions for the tables are redundant to the section headers which are immediately right before it. It should be changed to reflect the table itself and not the section in a whole. For example: "Calls to action" could be "Calls to action slogans in Chosŏn'gŭl and English, with selected details" or something by those lines. Thanks, Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥05:42, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All images need alt text, but currently none of them have them outside of the tables.
In the Hongwu Emperor's life details section, there should be a period after natural causes.
"including the Porcelain Tower of Nanjing, Yongle Encyclopedia and the Ming treasure voyages." You should remove the the in front of Ming treasure voyages.
"Focused primarily on domestic affairs. Died of natural causes" needs a period.
"Also a noted painter. Died of natural causes" needs a period.
"and allow the influence of eunuchs to grow." should be "and allowed the influence of eunuchs to grow."
"Suppress the Rebellion of Cao Qin" should be "Suppressed the Rebellion of Cao Qin".
"and abolish the practice" should be "and abolished the practice".
In the Emperor Yingzong (second reign) section, there needs to be a period after natural causes.
"Died of natural causes" in the Chenghua Emperor section needs a period.
"Died of natural causes" in the Hongzhi Emperor section needs a period.
"possibly due to alchemical elixir poisoning" needs a period.
"Died of natural causes" in the Longqing Emperor section needs a period.
"Died of natural causes" in the Wanli Emperor section needs a period.
"possibly murdered by poison" needs a period.
"Died from an unknown illness" needs a period.
"Executed by the Qing dynasty" needs a period.
"Surrendered to the Qing dynasty, later executed" needs a period.
Both instances of "Captured and killed by the Qing forces" need a period. I also don't think that the the is necessary in either.
"Committed suicide after being captured by the Qing forces" needs a period. I also don't think that the the is necessary.
"Died of natural causes" in the Zhu Yihai section needs a period.
Here is the seventh list in this series that I am nominating. The format is similar to the previous six that have been promoted to featured status. Looking forward to your comments. -- EN-Jungwon06:51, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Aespa (pictured) received their first ever music show win with their Inkigayo trophy " - there's a duplicated word there
"The chart measured" => "In 2021, the chart measured"
"18 music acts received an award trophy for this feat" - I don't think the word "music" is needed as no other type of act can top the chart
Twice and Aespa are both linked multiple times in the lead
"The single spent three non consecutive weeks at number one and achieved a triple crown." - assuming this refers to "Savage", change it to "The lattersingle spent three non consecutive weeks at number one and achieved a triple crown."
"The single also spent three non consecutive weeks at number one " => "The single spent three non-consecutive weeks at number one "
"Other first time number one artist include "Stray Kids"" => "Other first-time number one artist included Stray Kids" (no need for quote marks round the group name)
Where it's used as an adjective eg in "a number one single", "a number one artist", etc, it needs a hyphen. Not when it's used as a noun though eg "they had their first number one"
"IU (pictured) earned three Inkigayo Triple Crowns in 2021 for her singles "Celebrity", "Lilac," and "Strawberry Moon," respectively." - "(pictured)" isn't needed as it's obvious that she is the person pictured, and you also don't need the word "respectively"
Other photo captions where just one act is shown also don't need "(pictured)"
@ChrisTheDude, I have made the changes you have suggested. I'm unsure of the eight point you made about the hyphens. Could you please clarify that for me. Thanks for the review. -- EN-Jungwon09:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question: Is there a way to move the leade image with the imagemap into the infobox? It's very odd to have an image right below an infobox. If not, no worries.
The artist (G)I-dle should sort based on the G and not the parenthesis.
The alt text needs to be expanded. Per MOS:ALT, the alt text should describe the image for visually impaired users, and the alt text in this list doesn't do that.
@Matthewrb I've fixed the sorting and expanded the alt text. I tried to move the whole imagemap into the infobox but there seems to be issues with setting the image size. I tried using the |image_size parameter but the image size doesn't change at all. From my testing, the only way to make it work is to remove the imagemap. Thanks for the review. -- EN-Jungwon09:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first 15 or so years of this tournament attracted a lost of press coverage, but more recent sources are much harder to find. This is in a similar format to List of UK Open Billiards Championship winners. As ever, all improvement suggestions are welcome and I can provide relevant extracts from offline sources to reviewers. Thank you. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question- given that the PD images are PD only bcs the authors aren't known- how deep was your check?
I didn't find the PD images in an online search, or at either paimages.co.uk or alamy.com. None of the images has any credit attached where they were published. If there are any other steps I shoudl take, please let me know. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, what I meant was one seems to be from a magazine, and two from a newspaper, so did you check properly to find a name- bcs like in the case of magazines, it could be at the end of it or something too, along with that of every other image in said magazine(just want to make sure, as sometimes the attributed author can be specified in unusual places. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes, I did. It would be unusual for a UK newspaper to have picture credits somewhere other than close to the image, and I couldn't find any for those. The Billiard Player almost never included picture credits, and there was none for the image used here. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General comments:
Why are the early tournaments all(except 1934) ending in a 1000-something? A specific format?
Some prose about how points work, or the specific formats might be good? (And some about billiards too, unless that seems unnecessarily detailed to you)
"In 1930, British cue sports company Burroughes and Watts" => "In 1930, the British cue sports company Burroughes and Watts"
"The first rounds would be played at regional venues" - of the professional version, presumably? The last thing you mentioned was the amateur version so there is ambiguity here
Thelma Carpenter's name is spelt wrong on the second mention
"before turning professional and going on to compete in the Women's Professional Billiards Championship." - I am confused now as to which competition this list is actually talking about. The very first sentence talks about the Professional Championship, so I assumed it was that. But now I think maybe it's actually the amateur version? I note also that you don't clarify when whichever tournament it is became the "World Championship"
Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | 1987 becomes !scope=row | 1987 (on its own line). Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
The ref column should be unsortable.
The Final score column sorts in a weird way (in descending order 700, then 200, then 1000). Please fix.
I think it would better if the "Not held" cell is centered wherever it occurs.
One of my bucket list items is to visit all 281 cities and towns in my home state of Washington, so I thought it was high time to improve the massive list before I reach the 100% mark (which is only a few road trips away from being accomplished). This list follows the format set at other recent lists of municipalities, especially those from Mattximus, and I believe it is ready for review. SounderBruce06:35, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. You've added the scopes but the line needs to start with a "!" not a "|".
Fixed.
Some of the number columns are right aligned, but not all. All the ones which have a varying number of digits should be right aligned. The year column can be left as is.
Fixed for the center-aligned columns.
The order of precedence seems to be first-class city > second-class city > code city > town. It would be great to have that column sort in this way. I'm not sure where the unclassified city would fit in there.
The current sorting uses the most common order that these classifications are listed in (code city, 1st class, 2nd class, unclassified, town) by the government and MRSC.
@MPGuy2824: I was referring to the order when sorted by "Type"; the sortkey is "City X" for the types, which is alphabetical (code, first, second) and coincidentally aligns with the preferred ordering. SounderBruce03:22, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I read through the Classification section again and it looks like my previous assumption was wrong. The order of precedence seems to be code city > first-class city > second-class city > town and the column sorts correctly. Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:36, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - I did a mini-review prior to nomination and all my recommendations were made. I believe this list is at the featured level. I can find only one issue. There is a paragraph on mayor and manager and a mention in the lead, but no mention in the table. I wonder if there is a way to incorporate this into the table without a new column because I like the table as is. If there are only those two, and only a few managers, could a note be made for those which says all others are mayor? Or is there another creative solution? It would be a shame to just remove that paragraph which is another option. Mattximus (talk) 22:50, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Mattximus: I'm not sure if a new column would fit, nor would a separate notes system be warranted. I have added a sentence with the MRSC statistics, which show 227 mayor–council municipalities and 54 council–manager municipalities. MRSC also notes that the systems aren't fully separate, as some mayor–council cities have administrators who have powers similar to a city manager. SounderBruce03:22, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well if nobody else has an issue with the mayor/manager being in the lead/text and not in the list, I will Support based on everything else which is excellent. Mattximus (talk) 21:37, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mammal list #51 in our perpetual series and bat list #10: Nycteridae, or the slit-faced bats. With only 14 species, this is one more small step in our bat journey, just a few more small bats with oddly-shaped faces. Though at least we have a fierce-looking dude for our lead image. This is the last small list for bats, as we're almost done- just one more big list, one overhaul of the fruit bat FL to match the rest, and our final capstone list. As always, this list reflects formatting discussions from prior lists as well as the scientific consensus on the family. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN15:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The IUCN site lists 16 in the Nycteris genus, Nycteris madagascariensis and Nycteris vinsoni not appearing on this list, are they the "few extinct prehistoric nycterid species" mentioned or are there other reasons for their omission? JP (Talk) 12:44, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because... FA list. Aiming to (eventually) form a Kittie studio albums Good Topic (7 albums; need to finish 2 of them). Yeah. Expanded enough to cover all stuff now??? // Chchcheckit (talk) 09:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There seems to be some inconsistency in whether the band should be treated as singular or plural e.g. you have "In 1998, Kittie recorded its first demo" but shortly afterwards you have "The band released their debut album". I have to confess I can't fully get my head around North American usage in this regard (I am British and we always treat a band as plural no matter how the sentence is worded e.g. we say "Coldplay are releasing an album" not "Coldplay is releasing an album"), so maybe the above is valid..........?
"charted within the top forty of Billboard Active Rock Tracks chart" - this should be either "charted within the top forty of Billboard's Active Rock Tracks chart" or "charted within the top forty of the Billboard Active Rock Tracks chart". Both are valid but the current wording is not.
"The band's second album Oracle (2001) earned the band" - any way to avoid "The band...the band"....?
"was their lowest-charting album in the United States, debuted at number 178 on the Billboard 200" => "was their lowest-charting album in the United States, debuting at number 178 on the Billboard 200"
"The band recorded its fifth album, In the Black, in 2008" - the table says 2009
Why does only one video album have a ref against the title
I took a break from FLC, but I'm back with my second accolades article for an MCU TV series, this time for Loki, one of the few MCU series to get multiple seasons. -- ZooBlazer03:00, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
based on Marvel Comics featuring the character of the same name. -> based on the Marvel Comics television show featuring the character of the same name, potentially? I'm not very familiar with the article subject but I would imagine Marvel Comics is an adjective.
Done
and two Writers Guild of America Award -> and two Writers Guild of America Awards
Done
Loki was nominated for four Critics' Choice Television Awards and in genre awards, the series won one Critics' Choice Super Award and one Saturn Award, and was nominated for a Harvey Award, a Hugo Award, and a Dragon Award. -> Loki was nominated for four Critics' Choice Television Awards and in genre awards, a Harvey Award, a Hugo Award, and a Dragon Award, and won one Critics' Choice Super Award. potentially? As it stands the sentence feels overly long.
I did a mix of what you did, and also just ended up splitting it into 2 sentences.
The image provided is under a compatible license, has proper alt text and captioning, and is relevant to the article.
Sources used look reliable, and it looks like citations use CS1 and M D, Y formatting throughout although another source review is needed, at least for WP:HIGHQUALITY, since I'm not familiar with source quality for films. (This is also my first ever source review, so someone should probably go through and make sure I'm not missing something!)
Source spot check of eight refs, randomly selected:
Ref 13 checks out.
Ref 37 checks out.
Ref 7 checks out.
Ref 40 checks out. Although, this source potentially is better since it includes the date of the ceremony as well?
The date of the article in this case matches the ceremony date.
Ref 29 checks out. Although, this source from the same publisher potentially is better since it clarifies that Loki did not win and includes the date of the ceremony. I'm also unsure about the high quality-ness of Comics Beat, which looks to be a blog (but again, I'm not familiar with sources for this subject). Perhaps you could use the winners and nominees pages for that year instead? Let me know your thoughts.
I'm not a main editor of accolades articles, but it seems that if the award is not won, then the ref remains the nomination ref.
You seem to be missing some awards; From a quick skim of this IMDB page, I found one more Hugo Award, one more World Soundtrack Award, one more Set Decorators Society Award, one International Film Music Critics Award, two more Hollywood Professional Association Awards. I'd go through and see if there's anything else missing.
In the table, the scope for header cells which cover more than one row should be "rowgroup", not "row".
Could you center the references (e.g. style="text-align:center;" | <ref name="ArtDirectorsAwards2022"> or just align="center" | <ref name="ArtDirectorsAwards2022">)?
All movie titles/tv show titles in the references should be italicised as far as I'm aware; see the fourth bullet point of MOS:CONFORMTITLE.
Ref. 32 missing wikilink to HMMA.
Ref. 20's website has changed the way they presented the content. Either remove url-status=live or change title, etc.
Ditto with Ref. 43.
2024 Golden Reel Categories categories missing wikilink in the table.
You've repeated the same HPAA ceremony date twice.
The people's names in the "recipient(s)" column should sort based on surname, not forename (the surname of the first person listed if there's more than one). Sgubaldo (talk) 00:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I have been attempting to streamline the figure skating national championship articles lately so they all appear uniform. The Ukrainian article has been fully audited and verified to sources. I have gone through and personally verified every entry. I believe I have properly formatted all of the sources in a uniform style. (This was an issue with my previous nomination a while back.) If anyone can suggest a bot or an automated method to archive the sources, please let me know. All of the tables are properly formatted and meet Wikipedia's MOS requirements. While I have made strong headway on many countries' respective articles, the Ukrainian article is one of only two which are fully complete and sourced through the present day (the other, BTW, is Estonia). Additionally, due to the current situation in Ukraine, I believe this subject may be of heightened interest. Please let me know if there are any questions or concerns, or if you have any suggestions on how to improve this article. Bgsu98(Talk)21:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
With the 1982 list having just been promoted and the 1983 list having significant support, here's the 1984 list. In this particular year, two of the guys behind one of the most famous heavy rock songs of all time made their first appearance on a chart historically more used to the likes of Barry Manilow and the Carpenters and went all the way to number one. Feedback as always will be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:31, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to try to be nitpicky just to find some sort of issue, but everything looks good already. Well done yet again with this series of lists! Support. -- ZooBlazer07:16, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Seems like there has been a good amount of feedback already. Great work as usual! I have an FAC somewhat struggling to gain traction in case you are interested.--NØ05:59, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Magnum P.I. is the 2018 reboot of the well-known 1980–1988 televisions series of the same name. While I haven't seen the original, I first became interest in the reboot after it was developed by the same person who oversaw the 2010 reboot of Hawaii Five-O, one of my favorite television series. Anyways, I have been (very slowly) working my way towards a GT for the rebooted Magnum and so comes another stop at FLC. This is the list of episodes page for the series and is complete with a full list of the five seasons and a lead with an overview of the program. TheDoctorWho(talk)06:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"The remainder of the cast is made up by" =>"The remainder of the cast is made up of"
"Season three was delayed as a result of the COVID-19 impact on television." - this doesn't read very naturally. Maybe just "Season three was delayed as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic"
"Despite being a top-25 rated series, CBS cancelled it six days later" => "Despite it being a top-25 rated series, CBS cancelled it six days later" (current structure indicates that CBS itself was a top-25 show)
"NBC picked the program up for an additional 20-episodes" - no reason for that hyphen there
" the performers contracts" => " the performers' contracts"
"Magnum P.I. shares a fictional universe with the 2010 reboot of Hawaii Five-O, and the 2016 reboot of MacGyver; the former of which, Magnum P.I. had a crossover event with in 2020" => "Magnum P.I. shares a fictional universe with the 2010 reboot of Hawaii Five-O, and the 2016 reboot of MacGyver; Magnum P.I. had a crossover event with the former in 2020"
Yeah, it's straight up a violation of COLHEAD, just in a template rather than bare template code. Screen reader software hits that row and goes "34, Prod code, MPI216. 34, US viewers (millions), 7.05. No. overall, Part 2. Part 2, No. in season, Part 2. Part 2, Title, Part 2. Part 2, Written by, Part 2. Part 2, Original release date, Part 2." etc. It reads as a multi-column episode number, not as a header. I am aware that I haven't caught them all in previous FLCs (some of those are older, but Cobra Kai and Better Call Saul were last year), for which I apologize. --PresN12:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on accessibility. A few of the refs are missing their archive links. You might have to manually fix them since IABot seems to be acting up. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:30, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Jpeeling
It appears episode 11 and 13 of series 1 are in the wrong order.
TV viewers figures picked from the 'Programming Insider' source are inconsistent with the figure used, episodes 87, 88 and 92 use the 'Live + Same Day ratings' which looks to be in in-keeping with prior sources, episodes 93 to 96 use the first first hour figures instead and episodes 89 to 91 use a figure that doesn't match either.
Series 2, episode 1 is listed as "Payback is for Beginners" but appears to be titled "Payback for Beginners" on some sources, can this be checked
Inconsistency points - Alexandra La Roche or Alexandra LaRoche, Ruba Nadda or Rubba Nada
@Jpeeling: I've fixed the first two points. I couldn't find an official source on point three (it's actually listed both ways depending on the source), so I added it as an alternative title.
Mongolia has 6 World Heritage Sites and 11 sites on its tentative list. Standard style. The nomination for Japan is already seeing some support so I am adding a new one. Tone21:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All citations are appropriately formatted in a consistent manner.
All citations are also from UNESCO; would appreciate some source diversity here, especially some third-party coverage. The list could benefit from using these in the lead to provide context for the listed and tentative sites, as well as Mongolia's own thoughts on the honors (if possible).
The issue I am having with non-UNESCO sources is that they are typically directly derived, thus not providing any added value, or are tourist sites or blogs which again are not particular helpful. I quick-checked national ministry of culture, that would be a good source, but I didn't find anything. I am, of course, open to suggestions. Tone08:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tone, you may find additional sourcing in Christopher Atwood's Encyclopedia of Mongolia and the Mongol Empire (2004), which you can find here. It provides detail on all the World Heritage sites (albeit some under different names) and some of the tentative list. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:42, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Taking the Four-division era table as an example, the column names are a bit weird. I think having Div I, Div II, Div III and "College/NAIA" as colgroups with "winner, school and sport" as columns under each of them would be better. The same applies to the first two tables also.
Changed my mind, sorry. In the "Single program" table, it doesn't make sense to say "University Division Winner", since there was only one division; just "Winner" will do.
You are still missing some archive links, which the bot wasn't able to handle. You might have to resort to manual archiving and/or addition of the archive urls to the various refs.
Refs 23, 52, 53, 59, 63, 70 – "ScreenRant" -> "Screen Rant" to match the target Done
Ref 29, 31, 67, 115 – (The New York Times sources)Add the url-access parameter to note that this story is accessed in full with a subscription by adding |url-access=subscriptionDone
Refs 38 and 88 – "The Los Angeles Times" -> "Los Angeles Times" to match the target Done
Ref 40 – "The Independtf" -> "The Independent" Done
Ref 46 – Add url-access parameter (The Atlantic) Done
You were missing a number of scopes still, but the cells were led with an exclamation point, making the first cell in a row grey, which sometimes makes people mistakenly think a scope has been defined
Some of the scopes were row when they should have been rowgroup, fixed
There were duplicate exclamation points in a spot
There were duplicate scope definitions in the same spot
I fixed the above issues, but please try to more diligent and careful about the scopes in future noms
The rest of the review is based on this version of the page.
Refs 5 and 72 – One uses "E!" and the other uses "E! Online" Done
Ref 34 and 41 – Cinema Blend appears to be showing up in my source highlighter as not reliable, any thoughts on its reliability?
Cinemablend is published by Future plc, this FAQ breifly touches on their editorial policy and a little more detail can be found on their about page.
Ref 35 – Author is listed as Joseph C. Lin instead of Joseph Lin. Typically we'd want to use whatever they list themselves as instead of cutting it short, since some authors do opt to include a middle initial for various reasons. Done
Ref 38 and 88 – Mark as a subscription required (Los Angeles Times) Done'
Ref 40 – Needs author and publish date
Ref 43 – Add publish date Done
Ref 45 – Add publish date Done
Ref 48 – Needs a publish date Done
Ref 55 – Add author Done
Ref 56 – Add publish date Done
Ref 60 – Add author and publish date Done
Ref 73 – Add author Done
Ref 81 – Add publish date Done
Ref 87 – Add publish date Done
Ref 90 – Add author Done
Ref 92 – Change "TIME" to "Time" - match target / be consistent withref 35 Done
Ref 92 – Add author Done
Ref 103 – Mark as subscription required (The Boston Globe) Done
Comment - not sure what is expected on this type of list but a bit concerned regarding the role column generally lacking sourcing. The table lists full name of the roles, when many of the references identify the first name of her character only which might be as much as you could expect, however some references don't list a character name at all - 'Safety Not Guaranteed', 'Stuck in Love', 'The Boss' and 'CHiPs' for example, can alternative sources be found? The reference used for 'Big Mouth' only mentions her role in 'Central Park'. The reference used for 'Gracie's Choice' doesn't even mention that film at all, except for in the comments, so can't identify if Gracie Thompsom is a typo. JP (Talk) 14:00, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"and appeared in a Broadway revival of The Crucible the following year" - what is the following year? An initial year is never stated. Done
"appeared in a Broadway" -> "appearing in a broadway" Done
"lead role of Eleanor Shellstrop on the critically acclaimed NBC comedy series" - 'critically acclaimed' is loaded language and requires multiple high quality sources to support it. While I don't disagree, such sources aren't attached to the statement, you either need to remove them or add sources. MOS:ACCLAIMED/WP:PUFFERY. Done
Can I ask about the reliability of Moviefone? It appears that they once referred to their authors as "bloggers" ([2]) and Monika isn't listed there at that time.
The bloggers labeled appears to be a branding thing, I'll see if its replaceable.
There's quite a few listings in the television section that specify a number of episodes. WP:FILMOGRAPHY requires many of these to be directly sourced - "Do not list the number of episodes if the role is a starring or major recurring role unless it is sourced. If the role does not cover the entire run of a television program, list the seasons involved instead." - can I ask if this advice is followed? Done
Why is the role field empty for The Tiny Chef Show? Added
The role in A Man on the Inside is uncredited per the source - any reason why uncredited roles are noted in some places and not others?
As far as I'm aware all roles that are un-credited are listed as such, I didnt create the table only sourced it. I don't really want to check the credits of 100 or so different projects
It appears that there are some web sources that are still live that haven't been archived. Done
There are also some MOS:CURLY quotes in reference titles
I went ahead an ran them, but this is my preferred dumb quote converter, this for dates. No worries about checking 100 credits, but I would at least go ahead and add the uncredited mention to the single credit I mentioned. I can see you've already run IA Bot and I know it's been a little pesky lately, so I'm satisfied with that as well If they the "bloggers" is a branding thing, it's not an issue, I just wanted to check. Just the "critically acclaimed" and filmography number of episodes to go before I pass the sources. TheDoctorWho(talk)05:29, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is Olympic medal table #7 for me (Winter Games nom #3), and it's the the shortest one I've worked on so far. There were no NOCs as a first time medalist or first time gold medalists, no stripped medals to mention, and only a single first time participant. It was a relatively run of the mill event, with high stakes of course. As always, I will do my best to respond to all comments as quickly as possible, and I appreciate any and all feedback that is given. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:32, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"665 athletes representing" - I would suggest "A total of 665 athletes representing" to avoid that whole "starting a sentence with a digit" thing which, while probably not technically wrong, always looks a bit "off" to me
The 1960 Winter Olympics, officially known as the VIII Olympic Winter Games and also known as Squaw Valley 1960, were a winter multi-sport event held from February 18 to 28, 1960, at the Squaw Valley Resort (now known as Palisades Tahoe) in Squaw Valley (now known as Olympic Valley), California, United States. This seems to be a long ass sentence. Can you maybe reword/rephrase it?
Can you bundle those 4 citations together so that the article will look better?
This seems to be a long ass sentence. Can you maybe reword/rephrase it? – Long as the sentence may be, it's following the standard format, and there's nothing technically wrong with it from my perspective.
Can you bundle those 4 citations together so that the article will look better? – I typically do not bundle citations unless there's five of them. My opinion is that this does not negatively affect the readability or make the article look worse.
Can you maybe capitalize the "D" from the surname "De Bruin"? – The source does not capitalize it, and if you look at De Bruin, you'll see it's a fairly common thing not to do so.
Image has alt text, appropriately licensed, and the caption fits the article. So I guess with just one image, the image review passes
Do you need all 4 of the first references together, or is it possible to cut it down one or two?
Not sure if it's something absolutely needed or not, but based on reviews of my lists in the past, I've been told to include |+ {{sronly|TEXT HERE}} for the tables, so maybe add that.
Overall the article looks good! My comments are mostly nitpicking. It's crazy how many more medals are awarded these days compared to this Olympics. -- ZooBlazer22:00, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ZooBlazer: Thank you for the review! To address your points, I tried very hard to find the appropriate references to not use 4 refs on the lead sentence, but due to the name changes and the variety of information contained in the lead sentence, I was unable to. As for the suggested template, the purpose of that is to add a table title for screen readers. In that template, that heading is meant to only be displayed for screen readers. This is not necessary when there's already a title added to the table, but some people opt to hide a table title while others choose to include it. In this case, and in the case of most Olympic medal tables, it makes more sense to include the caption with the source as the top 10 entries for the table are often transcluded into the main Olympics article.
Never feel bad nitpicking any of my noms, it only serves to make them better and pushes me to consider various aspects of what I'm doing when I'm doing them! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:13, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"The chart was published on a fortnightly basis" - when? Just in this decade? Or always?
"The methodology for the chart was amended on the week of July 10, 1993" => "The methodology for the chart was amended with the effect from the week of July 10, 1993"
"Additionally, the chart is now published weekly" => "At the same time, the chart began to be published weekly"
"has since become a sub char of Top Latin Albums " - when did this happen? Also "chart" is spelt wrong
"Billboard also imposed a linguistic rule of an album requiring it to have 70% of its content in Spanish" => "Billboard also imposed a linguistic rule requiring an album to have 70% of its content in Spanish"
"which had been in the top spot since the issue dated November 18, 1989." - source?
"Other female acts to reach number one on the chart include" => "Other female acts to reach number one on the chart in the 1990s included"
"Luis Miguel had the most number one album of the decade" => "Luis Miguel had the most number one albums of the decade"
"His album Romance (1991), was" - no reason for that comma
"spent 16 weeks on the apex of the chart" => "spent 16 weeks at the apex of the chart"
"also reached number-one" => "also reached number one"
" Macarena Non Stop (1996) by Los del Río, Macarena Mix (1995)" => " Macarena Non Stop (1996) by Los del Río and Macarena Mix (1995)"
"It would be the band's only number one album on the chart" - which band? You listed five in the last sentence.
"Three non predominately Spanish-language albums" => "Three predominately non-Spanish-language albums"
"Although Supernatural topped the chart on the week of July 3, 1999" => "Although Supernatural topped the chart in the week of July 3, 1999"
"Los del Río (pictured in 2009) acheive their only number one on the chart" => "Los del Río (pictured in 2009) achieved their only number one on the chart"
The top album on Billboard's year-end chart isn't necessarily the best-selling Latin pop album of the year. It's the best charting based on a methodology which allocates points based on its position each week. I would reword to "Indicates the number one on Billboard's year-end Latin pop albums chart"
"and has since become a sub char" - chart is still spelt wrong and "since" still doesn't specify when it became a sub-chart. Other than that, all looks great! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I think I nailed it down. The same week that the Top Latin Albums chart was established was also when the Latin Pop Albums became a sub chart of it. I fixed the sentence to the best I could, how does it look? Erick (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Spot checks on 15 sources match what they are being cited for
Feedback:
Ricky Martin image has no alt text
Ref 7 – It looks like your approach is to link the first instance of a source in references, so with that said... Link to the LA Times
Ref 7 and 9 – Need url-access parameters added, as they request a subscription to read
Refs 12, 15, and 16 – Your referencing practices seem to be to link the first time a source appears in the references, so only link Recording Industry Association of America in ref 12
Refs 18, 20, 21, and 22 – For consistency with ref 17, it seems these should be using the website or work parameter for AllMusic instead of the publisher one.
That's what I've got, and you've got nothing to apologize for regarding any type of absence. I'm just thrilled whenever a FLC regular returns or sticks around. Please ping me when the above has been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Hey man im josh Hey there, thanks for your kind comments! The only changes I couldn't fix were the {{Certification Cite Ref}} to disallow multiple to the RIAA and for AllMusic, I corrected the name and moved all of them to publisher since AllMusic is an online music datatbase. Erick (talk) 19:40, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Magiciandude: Makes sense, so long as the AllMusic references are consistent. I'm a bit hung up on the consistency for linking though, as that is one of the main things that I look at when doing reviews. Perhaps you could swap to a different citation template, or link to the source in all references (would be quick with the built in find and replace tool)? Hey man im josh (talk) 19:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Magiciandude: I see now what the purpose of that template is in regards to auto generating the reference. Yeah, that complicates things a bit, but linking to just the search itself isn't an improvement. This is what I meant when I suggested you convert the references so that the linking can be consistent. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:17, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Current references 55, 81, 86, 87, 125, 206, 230, 391 and 398 all link to wrong date of Billboard charts
"February 15, 1997" is a repeated row
References 308 to 310 link to correct date but use wrong year in the title of the reference
References 115, 368 links to correct date but wrong date in the title of the reference
Second use of reference 5 (Ana Gabriel chart history) placed after statement regarding Selena's 44 weeks at number 1, should this be to Selena's chart history?
Having returned from a pretty chill holiday break, I've found myself in a better headspace to work on major projects. Inspired by the release of SZA's most recent album, I'd like to present the list of songs recorded by SZA. This was a daunting page to complete, but I hope with your comments, this list is brought to its best possible condition. Elias 🦗🐜 [Chat, they chattin', they chat]05:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Psychedelic, lo-fi instrumentals and an urban musical style with "feminine inflections" characterize SZA's early songs" - "psychedelic" is an adjective, not a noun, so you can't say that "Psychedelic [...] characterize[s] SZA's early songs"
....thinking about it, is it meant to mean "Psychedelic lo-fi instrumentals"? If so, then lose the comma as it causes confusion (to me at least, it seems ) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the comma to an "and" (to prevent sea of blue issues)
"As time passed, the media started to consistently label SZA in publications" - last two words are redundant I think - where else would the media label her thus?
Good point
"SZA has appeared on dozens of soundtracks" - really? she has appeared on 25+ soundtracks? That seems a lot for an artist who released her debut album less than 8 years ago.....
That was definitely a stray phrase I forgot to remove before moving to mainspace. My bad.
"her label's manager Punch said that leaks of the sort could cause" => "her label's manager Punch said that leaks of this sort could cause" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Space Jam: A New Legacy soundtrack" → "Space Jam: A New Legacy (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)"
"Trolls World Tour soundtrack" → "Trolls World Tour: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack"
"Insecure soundtrack" → "Insecure (Music from the HBO Original Series)"
Any reason why all of these four should be changed?
Those are the names that the soundtrack albums were released under and thus it would be appropriate to label them as such in the table. Sebbirrrr (talk) 18:59, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"SZA co-wrote one SOS track with Lizzo" → "SZA co-wrote "F2F" with Lizzo" per WP:EASTEREGG
Removed the link instead
Wouldn't it be better to have a separate column for the refs in the unreleased songs table?
I do not think so. Moving all the references to another column will (1) make the column very cluttered and (2) make it hard for readers to determine which source supports which fact
The unreleased songs section contains several songs which were apparently released.......?
"Unreleased" refers to songs that neither SZA, her label, nor her collaborators released. Perhaps changing the header to "Unreleased music" will clarify things? If you're referring to "Die for You" and "Calling My Phone", then you'd be correct, but there were demo verses by SZA that were intended for the final songs and leaked online. That was what I meant by unreleased. Elias 🦗🐜 [Chat, they chattin', they chat]
Caesar’s name is still known around the world, and I was honestly surprised when I realized there wasn’t a list like this. I spent two weeks putting it together in my sandbox, digging through books on Internet Archive, using resources from TWL, reading articles from other Wikipedias, and browsing all kinds of sites to find mentions of him. A lot of people mix up things named after Augustus and Caesar since they both had "Julius Caesar" in their names, so I made sure to double-check everything to avoid that mistake. This is my first FL nomination, and I’m hoping it goes well. Alea iacta estThe AP (talk) 13:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
File:Retrato de Julio César (26724093101) (cropped).jpg - CC BY 2.0 (picture), actual work (Public Domain)
File:Triglav.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0 + GNU, source link is deleted so it needs to be fixed (or the image itself could be replaced) + caption needs to be sourced
File:Il ponte di Cesare sul Reno.jpg - Public Domain, source link needs to be fixed
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@TSventon:The lead should have a citation for anything not cited in the body. When I said the proposed new lead looked good, I only meant in terms of length and coverage, and kinda assumed references would be added later. -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Temple of Divus Julius was built in his honor by his adoptive heir, Augustus in the Roman Forum." => "Temple of Divus Julius was built in the Roman Forum in his honor by his adoptive heir, Augustus."
"Several works of plays, operas, and films" => "Several plays, operas, and films"
"the Latin name Norba Caesarina, which was founded" - the name wasn't founded. Maybe "chosen in honor".....?
"A French commune located at the mouth of the Argens valley and was founded or expanded" => "A French commune located at the mouth of the Argens valley which was founded or expanded"
"It is present in the Roman Forum and was named after Caesar" => A building in the Roman Forum which was named after Caesar"
"believed to be built by Cleopatra VII" => "believed to have been built by Cleopatra VII"
"These were the first two bridges on record to cross the Rhine river, were built by Caesar" => "These were the first two bridges on record to cross the Rhine river. They were built by Caesar"
"It is located in Coventry Castle, is believed to be named" => "Located in Coventry Castle, it is believed to be named"
"It is third senate house in the Roman Forum, was named after Caesar" => "The third senate house in the Roman Forum, it was named after Caesar"
"Built in the Roman Forum by Augustus in 29 BC. It was dedicated to Caesar" => "Built in the Roman Forum by Augustus in 29 BC, tt was dedicated to Caesar"
"A Conte di Cavour-class dreadnought battleship of the Regia Marina, was named after Julius Caesar" => "A Conte di Cavour-class dreadnought battleship of the Regia Marina, it was named after Julius Caesar"
" A Majestic-class pre-dreadnought battleship of the Royal Navy, was named after Caesar " => " A Majestic-class pre-dreadnought battleship of the Royal Navy, it was named after Caesar "
"A collier for the United States Navy whose namesake was Caesar and was built in England in 1896" => "A collier for the United States Navy whose namesake was Caesar, she was built in England in 1896"
"various wars like — Spanish–American War, Philippine–American War and World War I" => "various wars including the Spanish–American War, Philippine–American War and World War I"
"seen in July 44 BC, following the Caesar's assassination." => "seen in July 44 BC, following Caesar's assassination."
"between 1658 and 1736 which depicts the Caesar's assassination" => "between 1658 and 1736 which depicts Caesar's assassination"
"The Death of Caesar, an 1867 painting by the Jean-Léon Gérôme." - this is not a complete sentence so it should not have a full stop. There is also no reason for "the" before the name of the artist
"based on August Wilhelm von Schlegel's translation of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar" - play title should be in italics. Also, everywhere else you show it as "The Tragedy of Julius Caesar", not just "Julius Caesar"
"A 1953 American film adaptation of the Shakespeare's play" => "A 1953 American film adaptation of Shakespeare's play"
"An episode of BBC Television Shakespeare" - TV show title should be in italics
"A historical drama named after Caesar" - made when? By which channel/network?
"The common name is derived from the title Caesar (originally a family name) of the Roman emperors" - full stop missing
"Caesar's autocratic rule as Rome's dictator from 49 to 44 BCE" - elsewhere you used "BC", not "BCE"
"It derives from the cognomen of the Roman dictator Julius Caesar" - this far into the article, you don't need to inform readers that Caesar was a Roman dictator, or use his full name
Check for overlinking. Julius Caesar, for example, is linked three times in the list
The month July evolved from the month "Julius," which was originally called "Quintilis." I changed it to Julius and added an explanatory note.
changed it to "oil on canvas"
Notable ones: on a quick count, there are roughly 25-30 books that discuss him, with titles bearing his name. I’ve only included those that are considered notable. If you think I’ve missed any, please let me know!
Changed to italics
changed it to "the plot of which is loosely based"
removed the mention of "word" as Lex Caesarea is a proper noun and refined the sentence.
Notable - but as I see, it includes pretty much everything.I used various books and TwL resources to search for the mentions of the name "Caesar","Julio" and "Julia" ; I explored many websites too. The AP (talk) 03:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not so sure about that. A ten-minute Google search reveals:
That's a ten-minute Google: some notable, some not-so-notable, but all probably worth thinking about. And of course, that's not getting into anything named after him indirectly. Does anything named after the title Caesar count? The inclusion of Cáceres, Spain suggests yes, in which case this list is extremely incomplete. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to let you know that there are, in fact, many Roman emperors and civilians named Caesar. The individual on whom this list is based is Gaius Julius Caesar, a dictator. He had an adoptive son, popularly known as Augustus. Augustus's full name was Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus.
As mentioned in the article, the construction of Chaussée Jules César was initiated by the Roman governor Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa, who was a lieutenant to Augustus. No reliable source explicitly states that the road was named after either of the Caesars. If you can provide one that says so, I would happily add it.
Regarding Piazza Giulio Cesare (Palermo), the article on itwiki does not cite any references. Upon a quick search, sources such as Mediuma generally unreliable source and some travel sites like TripAdvisor provide little to no reliable information.
For roads, there is a category on Commons: Category:Roads named after Julius Caesar. Some roads in the category are not notable, and I could not find mentions of them in reliable sources—for example, Calle Julio César in Montevideo.
To be honest, I have not investigated hotels, but since they are not mentioned in secondary sources, I do not find them significant enough to include in the list.
Regarding Does anything named after the title Caesar count, do you mean the literal title Caesar or the last name (i.e., cognomen)?
Note: @AirshipJungleman29, @History6042, @ChrisTheDude – After reading Airship's comment, I revisited my research to find "notable" things named after Caesar. To my surprise, I discovered that I had missed 3 paintings, 3 films, and 2 items in popular culture. I kindly ask that you review the prose again, as I have also made significant revisions, such as rearranging items in alphabetical order. I sincerely apologize for this oversight. The AP (talk) 17:34, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really understand the logic of the sequencing here. Why does "Geographical locations" come first, followed by "Time-keeping", followed by "Buildings and monuments"? There doesn't seem to be a clear system, either alphabetical or thematic.
Similarly, within the sections: why does "Italian battleship Giulio Cesare come before the various HMS, Cleopatra and Caesar come before Caesar Restoring Cleopatra, or Caesaropapism come before Caesar cipher? Similarly, why do the three Royal Navy ships go 1896, 1793, 1944?
"In popular culture", as a subheading, is at odds with the others: the rest are not e.g. "In timekeeping", "In painting", etc.
On which: what constitutes "popular culture" for this list? It seems that stage plays do, but operas don't; statues do, but paintings don't; and television series do, but video games don't?
Several of these things aren't exactly "named after" Caesar: Goldsworthy's biography, for example, isn't a separate thing that's been given Caesar's name; it's about Caesar.
"Forum Julli": spelling error.
the third in the author's series of novels about the early Roman Emperors: decap emperors.
Some titles of works are not correctly capitalised: I noticed The death of Caesar (an error which is repeated in the painting's article)
An oil on canvas painting: hyphenate: oil-on-canvas (MOS:HYPHEN).
A title of imperial character. It derives from the cognomen of the Caesar: something has gone wrong here.
Many operas, like Giulio Cesare in Egitto by Handel and Die Ermordung Cäsars by Klebe, are dedicated to him.: are these operas dedicated to Caesar (in the sense that their composers made a declaration that the work was intended to specifically honour them), or do they simply retell parts of his life?
Monuments like the Basilica Julia, commissioned by him, and Caesareum of Alexandria are named in his memory: and the Caesaraeum of Alexandria, are named ...
Known for his military campaigns, including campaigns in Gaul, Caesar significantly expanded the Roman territory: this isn't idiomatic. "The territory of the Roman state" or similar?
Title case has been applied inconsistently in the bibliography and the notes, and there are a number of formatting and typographical errors in the references. There seems to be no order to the books cited that I can tell. I assume books only get listed under "Sources" if used more than once?
Library Thing is not a reliable source, and the Oxford Learner's Dictionary would seem an odd choice: we can surely find a more authoritative one?
Note 15 needs a look for formatting and accuracy: The Oxford Companion to Classical Literature was not published by Osmania University.
What makes "UdineToday" a high-quality reliable source?
Barry Strauss is a respectable scholar, but we can't use his personal blog to back up a major historiographical claim.
I am not convinced that World History Encyclopedia is a HQRS, but am willing to be convinced here.
The Chiaramonti Caesar has a "the" in the name, and shouldn't be italicised, as this is a modern title (cf. "Tusculum portrait".)
The Filipino girl group Bini have a numerous awards and nominations from first day until now. I believe that deserve have a featured list here on Wikipedia just like on SB19. Although, I tried to nominate the girl group single Cherry on Top and it was unsuccessful, it may be have a chance here on Featured List (and i will nominate COT soon).
Note: I cited a YouTube channel which is a Official Verified Channel and can be treated as reliable sources per WP:RSYT. RoyiswariiiTalk!04:31, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mention the individual members of Bini. (Ex: The Filipino girl group Bini, composed of...)
They began their career in 2020 with the release of their pre-debut single, "Da Coconut Nut", a cover of Ryan Cayabyab’s song., this could be written better (Ex: ...with the release of their pre-debut single, a cover of Ryan Cayabyab's song "Da Coconut Nut". )
That same year, Bini became the first Filipino group to win Best Asia Act at the 2024 MTV Europe Music Awards[12] was also honored with the Rising Star Award at the Billboard Philippines Women in Music., I'm guessing there should be an "and" after source 12.
For their efforts in promoting healthy lifetsyles among the youth,, quite vague, could this be better explained?
Remove wikilink of Bini above infobox. Wikilink instead first mention of Bini in lead.
Done.
Image used in infobox should have alt text and not use a fixed px size.
Done.
Wikilink first mention of ABS-CBN in lead.
Done.
Mention the individual members of Bini. (Ex: The Filipino girl group Bini, composed of...)
Done.
They began their career in 2020 with the release of their pre-debut single, "Da Coconut Nut", a cover of Ryan Cayabyab’s song., this could be written better (Ex: ...with the release of their pre-debut single, a cover of Ryan Cayabyab's song "Da Coconut Nut". )
Done.
That same year, Bini became the first Filipino group to win Best Asia Act at the 2024 MTV Europe Music Awards[12] was also honored with the Rising Star Award at the Billboard Philippines Women in Music., I'm guessing there should be an "and" after source 12.
Done. (I just forgot to add "and" lol)
For their efforts in promoting healthy lifetsyles among the youth,, quite vague, could this be better explained?
Mentions of "P-pop Music Awards" and other similar statements need to be replaced with "PPOP Music Awards" as that is the original name based on the official site. Arconning (talk) 13:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ALLCAPS and MOS:TMRULES should be applied here, right? The word "PPOP" is the short term for Pinoy pop, the popular music in the Philippines. It is not an acronym. Conventionally, it is written as "P-pop", similar to K-pop and other pop music genres. The accolade uses the word to pertain to the fact that they honor Filipino acts in the Philippine popular music. AstrooKai (Talk) 20:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Follow-up notice on this change. I removed the footnote since the accolade's name is unlikely to be confused since "Ppop" and "P-pop" are acceptable forms. While the hyphenated version is grammatically correct, clarification seems unnecessary in this case since both pertains to the same topic. AstrooKai (Talk) 10:42, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"The Filipino girl group Bini, composed of Aiah, Colet, Maloi, Gwen, Stacey, Mikha, Jhoanna and Sheena have received" => "The Filipino girl group Bini, composed of Aiah, Colet, Maloi, Gwen, Stacey, Mikha, Jhoanna and Sheena, have received"
"They began their career in 2020 with the release of their pre-debut single" - how can they have had a "pre-debut" single? Surely their first release was their debut....?
You have "The Filipino girl group Bini [...] have received" and "In 2024, Bini released their first extended play", where the group name is treated as plural, but later you have "Bini [...] was also honored", where the group name is treated as singular
in the table I can see both "P-Pop" and "P-pop" - which is correct?
Recipients that start with a quote mark should sort based on the first actual letter/word
"12 Christmas Song Covers You Should Listen to This 2024" - this doesn't make sense
Hi @ChrisTheDude! Just passed by this FLC discussion. I'm one of the significant contributors to this list and other articles related to the group, so I'm gonna answer one of your comments while the nominator—@Royiswariii—is away.
How can they have had a 'pre-debut' single? Surely their first release was their debut....? Pre-debut singles are common in the K-pop industry (considering that idol groups like Bini in the Philippines are primarily influenced by the K-pop industry of South Korea) and is increasing in the P-pop industry. Bini's pre-debut single, "Da Coconut Nut", is an electropop remake of Ryan Cayabyab's song with the same title. On the other hand, "Born to Win" is the debut single of the group, released few days before their official debut. Few example of other pre-debut singles by music groups include:
"Born to Win" is considered Bini's debut single because it was the song officially released when the group officially debuted on June 11, 2021, while "Da Coconut Nut" was released as a pre-debut single before their official introduction to the public. AstrooKai (Talk) 16:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the purpose of the "pre-debut" is to prepare the members for their official debut while building anticipation and an initial fanbase. So, that's why Bini have a pre-debut before the release of their official debut "Born to Win". RoyiswariiiTalk!16:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"The Filipino girl group Bini, composed of Aiah, Colet, Maloi, Gwen, Stacey, Mikha, Jhoanna and Sheena have received" "The Filipino girl group Bini, composed of Aiah, Colet, Maloi, Gwen, Stacey, Mikha, Jhoanna and Sheena, have received"
Done.
in the table I can see both "P-Pop" and "P-pop" - which is correct?
P-pop and P-Pop (known as Pinoy pop) are the same meaning its either, PPOP,P-pop, P-Pop and Pinoy pop can be called on this. However, on WP:BOLD it should be called as "P-pop", so I changed it.
"12 Christmas Song Covers You Should Listen to This 2024" - this doesn't make sense
Actually, it's included in listicles because it's a staff editorial picked from Billboard Philippines which they're also love the song or adding it to listen it because that time is Christmas and they added the song "Joy to the World (Bini song)".
Maybe I didn't write it as clearly as I could, but what I meant was that "12 Christmas Song Covers You Should Listen to This 2024" does not make grammatical sense in English. You can't say "this 2024" like you would "this Tuesday" because by definition there was only one 2024 -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I can see that that actually is the title of the source. It makes no sense in English but I guess we have to go with how the source is titled ..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:47, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again! Roy gave me the green signal to contribute to this FLC. So I'll help in the other comments.
You have 'The Filipino girl group Bini [...] have received' and 'In 2024, Bini released their first extended play', where the group name is treated as plural, but later you have 'Bini [...] was also honored', where the group name is treated as singular
This is a complex one because the group's name is a collective noun, which can be considered singular or plural depending on the context or its use in the sentence. Hence, the group may be referred to singularly or plurally. A similar practice can be seen in SB19's (another P-pop group) list, List of awards and nominations received by SB19, which is a featured list. In the list, it can be seen that SB19 was referred to plurally (The Filipino boy band SB19 have received...) and singularly (In 2021, SB19 was nominated...). Personally, I can't decide whether to use singular or plural throughout since the group's name usage varies in context.
Recipients that start with a quote mark should sort based on the first actual letter/word
I still don't understand why you swap between referring to the group as singular and plural. You have both "The Filipino girl group Bini [...] has received" but "Bini released their second studio album". In UK English, a group name is treated as plural ("Coldplay are"/"Coldplay have released"). In US English it's treated as singular ("Aerosmith is"/"Aerosmith has released"). I don't know what the norm is in Filipino English but it surely must be one or the other and not a random mixture of both......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved. See revision 1268347141. To avoid further complications resulting in prolonged discussion, which can be time-consuming, I have standardized the referencing of the group's name as a singular entity. Since the article uses Philippine English, which adheres to the American English convention, collective nouns are treated as singular. AstrooKai (Talk) 08:58, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Table lists it as "Ppop Music Awards", lead/infobox as "P-pop Music Awards", choose one and stick with it
Within the table, the "nominated" for the 2022 Awit Awards does not have the pink background like the others in that column, any reason?
Within the table there is no reference for the Ppop Music Awards - 2022 - P-pop Girl Group of the Year nomination
In the infobox, there is inconsistency on whether wins are also classed as nomination totals, for example the single win at Acervo Awards is included in the nomination tally but for P-pop Music Awards it is 13 wins and 4 nominations so the wins are not counted as nominations.
In the infobox, Myx Music Awards is listed twice
In the other accolades section, "The 15 Best Albums and EPs of 2024" isn't centred
In the other accolades section, some of the Billboard Philippines references are entitled "best x of 2024 (so far)" and were published mid-way through the year, is it accurate to list them as annual accolades without that "so far" cavaet, were any of these accolade lists updated by Billboard Philippines at the end of year?
In the other accolades section, some of the Billboard Philippines references are entitled "best x of 2024 (so far)" and were published mid-way through the year, is it accurate to list them as annual accolades without that "so far" cavaet, were any of these accolade lists updated by Billboard Philippines at the end of year?
I check the ref of Billboard Philippines where have a "(so far)", I think it was a final and I don't see any changes, however, I suggest that do not remove the "(so far)" ref title to avoid misrepresent or confusion, I guess.
Hi @Royiswariii:, sorry if I wasn't clear regarding my final point, an article written in June or July with a "best x of 2024 (so far)" portrayed as "best x of 2024" is misleading. As you can see with the "The 15 Best Albums and EPs of 2024" (written in June) -> "The 50 Best Albums and EPs of 2024" (written in December), a lot can happen in half a year. Either the table should include the "(so far)" bit or were there end of year lists for Standout Songs or Music Videos that can be used instead? I also think points 1, 3 and 4 of my comments remain unresolved. JP (Talk) 11:23, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Jpeeling! @Royiswariii has allowed me to take over this one and address it on their behalf.
Table lists it as "Ppop Music Awards", lead/infobox as "P-pop Music Awards", choose one and stick with it
Done, see revision 1269786544. I have sticked to "Ppop ..." since it's the official styling (no hyphens) of the accolade's name.
Within the table there is no reference for the Ppop Music Awards - 2022 - P-pop Girl Group of the Year nomination
In the infobox, there is inconsistency on whether wins are also classed as nomination totals, for example the single win at Acervo Awards is included in the nomination tally but for P-pop Music Awards it is 13 wins and 4 nominations so the wins are not counted as nominations.
Done, see revision 1269786205. Wins are also considered nominations, Roy may have probably misunderstood your point.
As for the Billboard Philippines listicles, I have removed the partial year listicles since they were already completed by December 2024.
24 Standout Songs of 2024 --> The 50 Best Songs of 2024
10 Best Music Videos of 2024 --> The 50 Best Music Videos of 2024
The 15 Best Albums and EPs of 2024 --> The 50 Best Albums and EPs of 2024
"The formation of the group began in 2018 when ABS-CBN's Head of Entertainment Production, Laurenti Dyogi, selected the members from a talent search to undergo training." → I'd recommend rewording this by starting with "In 2018, ABS-CBN's Head of Entertainment Production, Laurenti Dyogi..." as the previous sentence also starts with "the"
"The group gained wider recognition" → "Bini gained wider recognition" (avoid overuse of "the group")
"where Aiah, Sheena, and Jhoanna also won individual awards." → unlink the names of the members per MOS:DL
"Why is WatchMojo worth inclusion? It was deemed unrelaible as recently as 2020"
Removed, I apologize for citing this, I really don't know that WatchMojo are not reliable.
"Ref 10 what is Philstar Life?"
Philstar Life is a lifestyle platform under the Philippine Star. it is a English newspaper in the Philippines, their content is entertainment, fashion beauty, travel, health etc. (You can read their about us)
"Refs 11 and 50 link to Billboard Philippines for consistancy"
Done.
"Refs 20 and 21 list Awit Awards as the writer and not as the website"
We copied this on List of awards and nominations of SB19 an FL and a Filipino boy band group, you might check it out on ref 20 it's similar to Refs 20 and 21. I will not change for now until you comment again.
"Date formatting is inconsistent some use MDY some use DMY some use dashes"
"Ref 44 and 45 list Preview when the source labels itself as Preview.PH"
Done I name "Preview Philippines".
We don't use Mdy in Philippine article, I'll manually adding dates without a dash.
A few MOS:DASH violations
per above.
"Given the amount of nonlinked Awards some of these it raises the question of WP:UNDUE"
Some articles are not here in wikipedia due to WP:VERI, WP:GNG and WP:NPOV (but mostly are failed from WP:SIGCOV and GNG). I can't create a article because it might be deleted, so, I'll pass to other editors who are willing to create a article.
I am nominating this for featured list because I am about 1 article away from setting up a "Svalbard studio albums good topic" (4 albums); this is basically the reason this page exists. And because I think I've covered most/all bases in terms of their releases. Yeah. // Chchcheckit (talk) 15:06, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! I just have a few comments, mostly about sourcing.
The band's formation story should be tightened for a discography page. How they met Lilley is not important here, especially considering this source is borderline and admissible probably only because of the circumstances of types of sources available to cover the band at the time. So, less is better here.
I would recommend briefly highlighting in the lead how The Weight of the Mask was the band's first album to chart.
Refs 26, 29, 35, and 36 are all attributed to Kerrang!. How come 26 and some others have an author placeholder? I don't think it's necessary myself, but if you must insist on adding something to that spot in the absence of a writing credit in the source, please do it to all such citations. You do it to at least one other source, too. Just make it consistent.
What makes ref 5 and 15 - Circuit Sweet - a reliable source?
What makes refs 7 and 18 - Idioteq - a reliable source? In all reality it's probably fine but I've never used it before and I don't remember if I ever have heard of it.
"this source is borderline and admissible probably only because of the circumstances of types of sources available to cover the band at the time" is an issue I recognize. I have tried to avoid primary sources where possible. im cureently looking for alternative sources to circuit sweet & idioteq in case ig:
If it helps, here's another reference confirming the release date of Flightless Birds
lead cut down w/ note.
Fixed Kerrang inconsistencies.
Brave Words reformatted
Regarding thePRP: I was trying to find a source which stated the director name. The only other one I can find with a google search of "to wilt beneath the weight" "fraser west" [sic] is this, if this is (though i don't think it is) any better.
I looked into thePRP more - I'd prefer if you removed it actually, wookubus claims to be the only person running the place and I don't like the idea of using a self-published source here. After that, I will support, that about does it. mftp danoops00:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You largely treat the band name as a plural, which is correct for British English, but as an outlier you have "Svalbard self-released its eponymous debut extended play in May 2012"
"Svalbard developed a relationship with Pariso" - are Pariso another band? If so, maybe say "Svalbard developed a relationship with the [some sort of description] band Pariso"
"release of their third album When I Die, Will I Get Better?." - as the title ends with a punctuation mark, there is no need for that full stop
"Format: 7"" - suggest "Format: 7" vinyl" for total clarity (same on other similar rows)
"Svalbard self-released their eponymous debut extended play in May 2012" → "Svalbard self-released their eponymous debut extended play (EP) in May 2012"
"The band's fourth album" → "Svalbard's fourth album"
Are the music videos included on the albums? Confused: Please clarify what you mean by this
Ref 4 is the 2016 reissue/remaster, which I own. I use this reissue specificially (as opposed to the 2015 original and 2022 Church Road pressing) because it has detailed liner notes on when EP's/songs were released, pressing quantity and recoridng credits. The other reissues do not include such credits.
"Svalbard self-released their eponymous debut extended play (EP) in May 2012" Isn't that kinda redundant since "extended play" is already mentioned above??
@Chchcheckit: Apologies for the extended play comment, I skipped over the first sentence but "(EP)" should be added after "six extended plays" as the acronym appears later. Regarding the music videos, I meant to say that if they were not put on the album alongside the songs, then the album section is redundant. Thanks for clarifying my ref 4 confusion. Sebbirrrr (talk) 17:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How is that redundant? The song the video was filmed for belongs to the album, I don't see how that really implies what you're saying it does. mftp danoops17:06, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry! I just thought that column is better suited only for the singles but now I think it's fine to leave it as it is. Just don't forget about adding EP in the first sentence and that should be all! Sebbirrrr (talk) 18:54, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 36: "Whilst putting these clips together I realised that, to me, this video represents positivity and togetherness in a time when we've never been further apart," says Liam. [...] Thanks to everyone who contributed. I had a lot of fun putting it together." ah. i see. editing is not directing??? "n/a"-ed.
The issue with source 21 was that I wasn't seeing a date (like essentially there was no way for me to tell if the article had been published in 2014 vs. yesterday). I checked the archived link, and it had the publish date, it's just something that's been removed in the live version of the source. Regardless, I'm satisfied with the archive link. Source review passes and I'm happy to support. TheDoctorWho(talk)20:25, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the singles and music video tables could be vastly improved by moving the references to their own columns. I recognize that the studio album table may not need this, as the current format is typical of album tables.
Studio album table is missing some column scopes
Music videos table is missing all column scopes
"Kerrang!" as the website is not consistently wikilinked in sources
Ref 29 – Leave out "Kerrang! Staff" as the author. It's assumed its the site/company's staff when no author is listed, hence the website parameter.
Ref 7 – Same as above, remove "Rock Sound" as the author
The music video sources, in a spot check I did, were not actually verifying the directors that are mentioned
The ref for Ripped Apart under the singles table doesn't verify the year
Please make sure that the refs appropriately verify the information, that scopes are added where necessary, that the publisher/website is linked where possible in references, and then I'll provide a further review. Please ping me when that has been addressed. I do also have some concerns about the reliability of some sources used, but I'll address that in further feedback once the above has been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:02, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi;
What are the missing column scopes? Sorry, not clear/don't understand what you mean here (i understand)
Krrang staff (ref29) and Rock Sound (ref7) removed
The music video sources, in a spot check I did, were not actually verifying the directors that are mentioned. I have a good idea of what you're gonna say. Should the director credits (mostly found in the music videos/youtube sources) be kept separate from the general references for the music videos?
"Ripped Apart": archive URL used instead. this issue was noted by TheDoctorWho also.
This is my comeback nomination and, hopefully, my last comeback as well :) I did most of the work but also got invaluable help and insights from @Vipz:. As for why I did not nominate the article earlier, I could never find the membership year of Miroslav Ivanović, the last leader. But as far as I am concerned, that information is lost to history. I've tried to track it down, but I've been at a loss. As for the quality of the article itself and its worthiness for FL, I will note that it is obvious. It both covers a very important historical topic and covers the topic as well as it can do with the sources at hand. --TheUzbek (talk) 08:25, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done Shouldn't events before it was renamed to LCY call the party by its period name?
Sure, but what specifically are you referring about? One has the "Institutional history of the highest-standing office of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia" table as well as the headers "Political secretaries of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia" and "Organisational secretaries of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia" for the period up to 1937 and "|Leaders of the League of Communists of Yugoslavia" for the period up to 1991. Or am I missing something you are seeing and not me? :)
Done Rather than focusing on the names used for the position overtime, I think it'd be better to focus on the evolution of the position's power (and esp. give context for Tito's rule and rise to greater power!)
Classical communist institutions are rather vague when it comes to specific powers. For example, the general secretary of the Soviet communist party was not mentioned in the party charter until 1966. The same could be said of earlier stipulations in the Yugoslav party. It is only with the 1966 reforms that the LCY tried to develop a set of institutions different from its Soviet counterparts based on rules. THat is why the article has more information on the post 1966 years than the years before.
Done Tito needs to be wikilinked at his first mention in the body.
Done
Done Since you wikilink Tito's death in the lede, you should also link it in the body.
Done
DoneAustria, Bulgaria, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Slovenia, Switzerland and the Soviet Union do we need this big list of country names? We can just say "various other countries" or something.
Done, shortened it to "Soviet counterpart" as that was the most important one.
Partially done The LCY's article says it wasn't renamed to the Communist Party of Yugoslavia until the 2nd congress; that might not warrant a separate entry on the tables, but maybe a footnote could be helpful.
I have added in the text that the party was renamed at the 2nd and 6th congresses.
Done Tito's position as leader factored into his command of the resistance during World War II, right? That should be given a good mention.
I will try to find information on that. Formally, the partisans were under the control of the Unitary National Liberation Front and the Anti-Fascist Council for the National Liberation of Yugoslavia, two institutions the party controlled. The KPJ Central Committee also appointed him commander-in-chief of the resistance, but I don't think they did it formally speaking because he was general secretary. I will try to ascertain it.That is, of course they nominated him because he was the sitting general secretary, but I am not sure that they did that because of the institution he held or because of the immense power he held in practice. Does this make sense? Even so, I will try to use the power of Google!
Done The article currently doesn't state the point where the party (or the leader for that matter) actually held power in Yugoslavia. A brief mention of the NKOJ and the abolition of the monarchy in 1945 would probably be warranted.
Good point, will work on it!
Come to think of it, this should at least mention the early political situation, that its leaders led it into the 1920 elections and all
Maybe? It's not necessary to know about the institution of the LCY leader, but at the same time, a sentence won't hurt either.
Partially done It's unclear to me whether the President of the League had more power or not than the General Secretary position
The general secretary had more informal powers by dominating and leading the secretariat, but the secretariat was abolished in 1966. The powers of the presidents were formalised into clear rules, which never happened to the general secretary. The post-1966 reforms also tried to strengthen the political powers of the Presidency by turning it to a political-executive organ (merging the powers of the Politburo and the Secretariat). In communist systems, the general secretary (most notably Stalin) successfully bypassed the politburo, the highest political organ, by dominating the secretariat, the highest executive organ. I will clarify.
As written above, communist politics is de-institutionalised. No clear formal rules on the remit of the general secretary exists.
Done On the "Institutional history of the highest-standing office" table, probably would be easier to read if you merged the two "1st Congress" cells.
Done It might be good to add a sentence or two about what led to the foundation of the party with the SSDP and all.
Good point!
Done What was the seat before the Ušće Towers? Also, the towers don't seem to be cited or mentioned anywhere in the text.
I will try to find info on this!
Done This is a pretty minor gripe, but the text in "Institutional history" are in big blocks that are a bit hard to scan. Maybe break it up into slightly smaller paragraphs and add an image if there's any applicable ones?
Will do.
@TheUzbek: That's my bit. Sorry if any of this seems too nitpicky - feel free to reject or ask for clarification on anything! Generalissima (talk) (it/she)
"abrogating the responsibilities of the politburo and centralised power" -> "abrogating the responsibilities of the politburo and centralising power" Make the tense consistent. History6042😊(Contact me)21:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Bold words signify that those word(s) have been added or changed
when it was replaced by the office of president of the LCY. → when it was replaced by the office of the president of the LCY.
the 14th Congress rejourned and elected → the 14th Congress reconvened and elected
established as a people's democratic state and established a communist form of government → established as a people's democratic state and adopted a communist form of government
elected by the congress and was accountable it, the conference → elected by the congress and was accountable to it, the conference The AP (talk) 12:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC) I will check the list too; but now nap time![reply]
Added col/rowscopes to the table template, but the list still needs to set a |caption= on the header template and remove the psuedo-header rowspans (e.g. "Premiers of the North-West Territories"). --PresN13:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delist – there's so much work to do with this list, from adding citations to completely overhauling the table formatting, that I think it is more fair to remove the list quickly than to draw out a FLRC nomination while trying to make all of those changes. RunningTiger123 (talk) 06:40, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This list is missing key sections (namely production and reception), has poor sourcing (too many primary sources or lower-quality sources), and overall fails to meet present-day expectations for season articles. See also the related FLRCs for seasons 1, 2, 3, and 4. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list removal because... This article is frankly horrible. It lacks modern information after 2022. It's not as simple as adding the information as essentially the entire smash scene regarding rankings and tournaments imploded in 2022 when Panda Global went bust, so you'd have to add a separate ultrank 2023.1 list, then you'd have to add a separate lumirank list from when Luminosity Gaming acquired ultrank. This makes it too much work to just be a few simple edits from staying in featured lists.
A good alternative would be someone taking on the job of fully fixing this page up - which is not an easy effort.
Furthermore: there are many grammar problems found in the article. Examples being:
"In a January 2020 interview, Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa indicated that the company did not intend to support esports, stating that the company's focus was on inclusiveness, and their ability to create games that many people want to play, without the need for prize money, was one of Nintendo's strengths" - Run on sentence. "was" shouldn't be used twice here as it makes the sentence grammatically incorrect (clause being "the company's focus was on ... was one of Nintendo's strengths) versus (the company's focus on ... was one of Nintendo's strengths)
"Ultimate was released on December 7, 2018, to critical acclaim,[8][9] and broke sales records in the United States and Europe en route to becoming the best-selling fighting game of all time." - comma splice
"Players control one of over 80 characters drawn from Nintendo and third-party game franchises, and try to knock their opponents out of an arena. " - awkward + incorrect comma usage considering this sentence stands alone. should be no comma or "franchises, with the goal being to..." or similar
Many such grammatical errors in the opening, as well as outdated information which is not easily fixable, leads me to believe this is not a featured list-worthy list. Witsako (talk) 23:11, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I don't care what happens to this article and I'm not going to put in any effort to fix it. In 2020, several sexual misconduct scandals broke in the competitive Smash community, and after seeing how much of that community essentially went "we don't care as long as they press buttons good", I want nothing to do with Smash anymore. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 23:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at when the was nominated, which was three days after the awards were presented, it definitely seemed like a second year of these were expected but that never happened. And looking at the sources used, most of them come from the Appy Awards website itself. Also don't believe that What Mobile is a reliable source. It just looks too barebones to really be called a Featured List with it just being two paragraphs and a table. GamerPro6402:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove. I think it's possible that this is the best the article can ever be, which is commendable, but I also don't think every topic can qualify for featured status. I don't think this article qualifies for AFD, but the three secondary sources in Daily Telegraph, BBC, and What Mobile are all rather short and not particularly in-depth stories. A Google for "Appy Awards -wikipedia" does not turn up a lot of stuff that could be added, either. I don't think the secondary sourcing is strong enough here. SnowFire (talk) 05:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove I don't think this award passes WP:GNG, since beyond the inaugural event which was itself barely covered by reliable sources, there has been no further significant coverage that indicates notability here (WP:SUSTAINED). I would probably nominate this article for AfD or for a merger to Carphone Warehouse after this FLRC closes. Either way I don't think there's enough material here to make a FL sadly. Fathoms Below(talk)18:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't notable, but otherwise keep. This fails SUSTAINED and should be merged to Carphone Warehouse (and thus automatically lose FL), but it is stupid to arbitrarily declare that a list is too "barebones" when it meets the criteria just fine and there is no room for expansion. charlotte👸🎄09:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FLC3 includes "does not violate the content-forking guideline, does not largely duplicate material from another article, and could not reasonably be included as part of a related article," so I'd say that there's a valid concern here. More generally, some editors would look askance at backdoor removing featured status via merging the article, so having some sort of RFC-ish discussion somewhere is valid before taking action, and doing such a discussion at FLRC seems fine to me. (And to be clear, per my earlier !vote, I don't think the article necessarily "needs" to be merged to lose Featured status. Insufficient sourcing should be a problem for featured status anywhere.) SnowFire (talk) 20:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]