Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 28

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Phytomyxea. Jay 💬 07:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Slime mould diseases → Plant pathology#Phytomyxea  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There's no mention of "slime" or of "Phytomyxea" at the target. A better target might be Slime mold or perhaps Phytomyxea. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, shd be Phytomyxea. There was no need to bring this here, all we needed to do was fix the redirect target. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Should be redirected to Phytomyxea, ideally to a new pathology section. — Snoteleks (talk) 20:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• (List of) The Ocean's Trilogy (characters) → List of Ocean's (film series) characters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Listing this here upon the glance at the page history and per WP:PANDORA. Intrisit (talk) 14:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete it was at this title for about 2 minutes in 2018. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Emo-Vader → Kylo Ren  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete; this nickname seems to be almost entirely unused. A quick google search doesn't link "Emo-Vader" to Kylo Ren beyond a couple of Reddit threads. Loytra (talk) 13:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as per nom. What, Anakin himself isn't emo enough for ya? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as obscure synonym at best --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Funny but questionable usage at best. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 04:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above. Not a plausible redirect. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 15:34, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and WP:DAFTify per nom. My brain exploded trying to figure out a way this would be useful. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 17:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• F-Indy → IndyCar  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Formula Indy → IndyCar Series  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete; besides being unused (because nobody calls Indy car racing by those terms), they are ambiguous, and could mean IndyCar, IndyCar Series, or American open-wheel car racing. RegalZ8790 (talk) 21:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 03:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment I've seen Euro-press call it Formula Indy, so it is a misnomer. {{R from incorrect name}} Such as [1] -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 04:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per European misconceptions on the name -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 04:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What is the utility of a redirect that facilitates a misconception? RegalZ8790 (talk) 04:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    wP:RKEEP IT gets users where they want to go so is a viable {{R from search term}} -- we have these tags, so obviously, they are being used. -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 20:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment - @65.92.244.237 has illustrated that Formula Indy may be a viable search term. Is there any rationale for F-Indy? RegalZ8790 (talk) 00:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep both. These terms are both used to refer to the target. Formula Indy per above, an example for F-Indy: [2] although "F.Indy" and "F Indy" are more common the existence of this redirect will help search engines direct people using those search terms to the correct target. Thryduulf (talk) 09:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep used enough as to be a plausible search term. The purpose of redirects are to aid navigation, not to be "corrective". That's the article's purpose. oknazevad (talk) 15:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Ca ^{talk to me!} 02:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Windows 8.2 → Windows 10  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Windows 8.2 does not exist, and does not refer to Windows 10. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 17:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per previous RfD. I know it was 9 years ago and Wikipedia:Consensus can change, but the arguments made back then are still convincing. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep per previous RfD listed above. I also agree with the arguments made in said previous RfD. Fieari (talk) 07:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete unless mentioned: I'm not convinced. It's true that Windows 10 is the next major version release to come out after 8.1, but we don't redirect Windows XP SP 4 to Windows Vista. As for the argument that Threshold (the dev name for Win 10) was referred to in the press as 8.2 before it was referred to as Windows 10... That should really be mentioned in the article (presumably in the sections Windows 10#Development or Windows 10#Announcement) if we're going to redirect mentions of Windows 8.2 here. If we're going to keep this redirect, someone should go into the article and add a mention to it. At the very least it should be hatnoted, the way "Windows 9" is hatnoted in Windows 10#Announcement-- or perhaps added to the Windows 9 hatnote? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:41, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. There's documentation of preliminary names (unfortunately not referenced) on Windows-Never-Released. One suitable place for this information (with refs) might be List of Microsoft Windows versions. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 13:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]
  

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Keep. The arguments made in the previous RfD still stand. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Windows 10 has often been called Windows 8.2. Not all of that has been a mistake. Any web search will show many references to Windows 10 as Windows 8.2. Even if it was only called 8.2 before it was renamed as 10, we should keep it. Wikipedia does not delete information just because it isn't current – see WP:DEFUNCTS. But in fact a lot of people continued calling it 8.2 after it was officially called 10, as a way of emphasizing their opinion that it was an incremental release being marketed as some major leap forward. Remember that redirects are cheap. No benefit for deleting it has been suggested. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:00, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above. We don't require search terms to be commonly used in reliable sources, we just require them to be plausible and for the multiple reasons expressed above and in the previous RfD this is. Thryduulf (talk) 09:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Running water → Tap water  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

It seems questionable whether there is a primary topic for this term when considering Stream water (and Drinking water). For example, a search for images and videos of "running water" shows many pictures of water flowing in rivers and creeks. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• In the context of someone searching in an encyclopedia, tap water is the primary topic. Negligible amount of people are going to search for the vague concept of [water that is flowing], instead of searching stream, river, etc. Tap water is a specific concept that readers would expect. Ca ^{talk to me!} 06:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Running water isn't exclusive to the faucet and one could argue that running stream water could mean the difference between life and death. I suppose, this could be turned into a broad concept topic or something. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 04:34, 29 May 2024 (UTC) WP:STRIKESOCK. -- Tavix ^(talk) 02:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Above was identified as a loutsock. Ca ^{talk to me!} 13:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Running water is the opposite of stagnant water in the context of watercourses and associated bodies of water. So it is not restricted to tap water. So just turn it into a disambiguation page -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 05:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• I can get behind a Disambiguation page for this. Running water meaning water flowing in rivers and streams is also important in religious (see: mikvah) and mythological contexts, most popularly known in the vampire weakness of not being able to cross said water. For that reason alone I can't say that someone searching for this would be unlikely to mean rivers and such. Fieari (talk) 07:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambig this is equally likely to refer to tap water and water that is flowing in streams, etc. Thryduulf (talk) 09:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambiguate. I searched for "running water" in quotation marks on Google Books and found a mix of references to rivers and similar and references to tap water. Excluding classified ads, most hits seem to be for watercourses. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 17:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Drafted a silly disambig page to get this moving. Jay 💬 08:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Moondru Mugam (2017 film) → Mersal  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

It seems the film was never known by this name as I cannot find it anywhere in the article. Only a single reference to the 1982 film is made. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk) 11:57, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Kanye East → Parliamentary constituencies of the 2014 Botswana general elections  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete. I decided to look up "Kanye East" on Wikipedia and found that the page redirected here. It was previously deleted for vandalism back in 2005 (see Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Kanye+East&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist). The page was originally created as a redirect to Kanye North, a valid redirect that is mentioned on the target page, before being redirected to this page as a bot. Considering that there is no "Kanye East" mentioned on the target page, I'd say this might qualify for G3, but I'm sending it here as I know some people would disagree. The user who created the page also has a history of creating pages that get speedy deleted, and removing speedy deletion tags from other pages. 108.21.221.8 (talk) 01:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: It's a parody of Kanye West. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:10, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Kailash29792 No offense, but maybe research the topic before making ambiguous claims like this? Just search up "kanye east constituency" and you will see a couple of search results 48JCL ^(talk) 00:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: There is indeed such a thing as "Kanye East". As described in this report by Botswana's "Delimitation Commission"(?), they have decided to rename the "Kanye North" constituency to "Kanye East" - scroll down to page 91. (They also renamed "Kanye South" to "Kanye West" - see page 93 - which probably provoked most of the interest in this; there was even a Depths of Wikipedia tweet about this!) Interestingly enough, Kanye North (aka "Kanye East") doesn't have a full article of its own here (although maybe it should), even though Kanye South (aka "Kanye West") does have one. Anyways, good targets for this could include: the current target (if edited to cite the report I found); Kanye South; or Kanye, Botswana#Government (where both constitutencies are mentioned). (An aside: as for the claim that The user who created the page also has a history of creating pages that get speedy deleted, and removing speedy deletion tags from other pages., the pages I created that did get speedied (such as Booger King) were one-off bloopers, and the speedy deletion tags I've removed are grounded in my opinion that Wikipedians are overall too eager to slap speedy deletion tags on pages.) Duckmather (talk) 03:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per @Duckmather. 48JCL ^(talk) 00:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and maybe tag with Template:R avoided double redirect referencing Kanye North. It seems we need a more up-to-date article listing Botswana's parliamentary constituencies. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 17:24, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The rename from Kanye North to Kanye East happened this year, while the target article is about the 2014 districts. 108.21.221.8 (talk) 17:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @108.21.221.8. The article was literally created this year. 48JCLTALK 01:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Still, the article has "2014" in its title. Should we create new articles for the 2019 and 2024 parliamentary constituencies? Or would it be better to move the article to a title like Parliamentary constituencies of Botswana (currently a redirect) and broaden its scope instead of focusing on one specific year? —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 15:51, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Mx. Granger I will work on creating the article, once the RFD ends. 48JCLTALK 20:26, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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