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This page is mainly for reviewing the accuracy of non-dinosaur paleoart (usually by the artists themselves, but anyone who wants an image scrutinized is welcome to post them for review). Any other image, such as size comparisons or photos of skeletal mounts, can also be posted here to review their accuracy.
If you want to submit paleoart images for accuracy review, place them here as well as links to what you used as references. If you want to participate as reviewer, you can put the page on your watchlist. New images of any type can also be requested by including "Request:" in the section title, and if submitted, such an image will thereafter be reviewed. Sections are archived automatically after some time when a discussion stalls, to encourage speedy responses from both artists and reviewers. It is allowed to revive sections if they have been archived before being resolved, unlike regular talk page archives.
Modifications of previously uploaded amateur restorations to correct anatomical inaccuracies is encouraged (including by others than the original artists), but modifications of historical restorations are discouraged, as these should be used to show historical ideas. Drastic modifications to restorations published in peer-reviewed journals should be uploaded as separate files, so that both versions are available.
Images that have been deemed inaccurate should be tagged with the Wikimedia Commons template "Inaccurate paleoart"[5] (which automatically adds the "Inaccurate paleoart" category[6]), so they can be prevented from being used and easily located for correction. User created images are not considered original research, per WP:OI and WP:PERTINENCE[a], but it is appreciated if sources used are listed in file descriptions (this is often requested during WP:Featured Article reviews).
If image is included for historical value. In these cases the image caption should explain that it is an outdated reconstruction. Historical interest images should not be used in the taxobox, but preferably in a section of the text discussing the history of a taxon.
Criteria sufficient to remove an image:
Images should not speculate unnecessarily beyond what has been indicated by reliable sources. Therefore, depicting overly speculative physical features, behaviors, and pathologies should be avoided, to prevent WP:OR issues. Restorations that show serious pathologies known from fossil evidence are welcome, but should not be used as the main representation of a given taxon. These should instead show healthy, typical individuals, and not focus on unknown areas of their anatomy. Since Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia rather than an art gallery, it is not the place for artistic experimentation, and we cannot include every piece of available artwork.
Image differs appreciably from known skeletal elements.
Example: If Lystrosaurus is reconstructed with four fingers.
Example: If an hesperornithid bird known only from postcranial elements is reconstructed without teeth, a feature made highly improbable by its phylogenetic position.
Image differs appreciably from known non-skeletal elements.
Example: If a restoration of Castorocauda lacks hair.
Image differs appreciably from implied non-skeletal elements.
Example: Scaphognathus should not be depicted without pycnofibres, since phylogenetic bracketing implies that it had them.
Image pose differs appreciably from known range of motion.
Example: Plesiosaurs reconstructed with overly flexible necks.
Exception: If the range of motion is debated in the scientific literature, as is the case with sauropod neck position.
Image depicts a scene which is anachronistic or contradicts known geographic range.
Several skeletal reconstructions and diagrams done of Ornithoprion based on the figures provided in Zangerl's 1966 description. I've talked about this over in the Discord and these should be distinct enough to be Creative Commons, but let me know if they need to be differentiated further (and of course if there are any anatomical issues). No photos of the fossils are available on commons (Or anywhere but the description, for that matter) and even then they are quite severely crushed, so I'm not sure what can be done besides closely copying the figures in the paper to accurately represent them. I'm working on finishing up an extensive rewrite of the currently very barebones page for this guy, so I thought it could use some images besides the frankly horribly inaccurate life restoration I did a couple of years ago. Gasmasque (talk) 05:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will correct, good catch! The paper is from before the name change, so it must have just slipped my mind to adjust that while doing this. Gasmasque (talk) 06:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Zangerl's original figures show the two with a gap between them, and it is suggested that the rostrum was articulated and flexible and not fused to the Meckel's. If this illustration seems implausibly exaggerated or confusing then it can be changed, but I do want to emphasize that this was an apparently flexible structure. Gasmasque (talk) 22:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An additional fossil illustration and life reconstruction of another eugeneodont called Paredestus. There isn't a ton published on this guy, but the dentition described in the paper is extremely unique, and I thought it was worth doing a life reconstruction (based primarily off of other recons published for edestoids). Gasmasque (talk) 16:12, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yet another eugeneodont reconstruction/diagram, this time for Romerodus to coincide with another major page revision. Well preserved/described material depicted in white, preserved but uncertain material in gray and closely based on Caseodus, and body outline very closely based on known R. orodontus specimens. Any feedback at all on this or the previous Paredestus illustrations is greatly appreciated! Gasmasque (talk) 23:26, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't have any comment on these but looking at Commons you don't seem to have got around to uploading the Youngina drawing we were discussing on Discord a few months back. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got a bit busy with stuff so I never finished it but all it needs are osteoderms so maybe like 10-20 minutes of work. I can get Youngina and both of the Temnospondyls I have on commons done later today. SeismicShrimp (talk) 12:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unclear what is claw and what is soft tissue in the forelimbs of Yonghesuchus, not even clear if the forelimbs have claws at all. Separating them with linework (as in the hindlimbs) or different colors would be a simple fix. Skye McDavid (talk) 15:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think all of these look good. I can't recall ungual counts off the top of my head for non-archosaurian archosauromorphs, but thats a minor and fixable detail if incorrect. IJReid{{T - C - D - R}}17:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In at least the largest specimen of Prolacerta, the femur is a good 50% longer than the humerus [8]. The opposite seems to be true here? Or is it the posture? Also, Figure 9 in the paper has a new skull reconstruction that gives it somewhat larger eyes and a mild overbite. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 03:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While this restoration isn't used in the Megatherium article proper, it is widely used elsewhere, including at the collage in the infobox of Xenarthra. Looking at the head, there are a number of issues. 1. While this was a popular historical paleoart meme, Megatherium almost certainly didn't have a protrusible tongue based on a 2010 study of its hyoid bones [9]. 2. Megatherium probably had a prehensile upper lip similar to that of a black rhinoceros, see this 2006 paper which has a good restoration [10], which isn't shown in this image. The first issue and probably the second issue are fixable with editing. Hemiauchenia (talk) 07:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not the easiest angle to show this snout morphology from, but I've updated the image to show something like in that paper, what do you think, Hemiauchenia? If that's fine, I'll fix the landscape image too. FunkMonk (talk) 22:48, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks fantastic. In addition to the landscape the Xenarthra collage will also need fixing [12] (which just a simple job of replacing the original with your fixed version) Hemiauchenia (talk) 04:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I found exactly same skeletal reconstruction in DeviantArt.[13] Is image uploader same as original author? Also found some description of article of Vishnuictis which is citation needed, is somewhat similar to description in this deviant. (difference is upper length being 3.4 m instead of 2.4 m) Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 15:10, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The fish from the Yixian Formation is excellent and sorely needed. Although I'm not sure about the big dark box on the left-hand side of the labeled version. A Cynical Idealist (talk) 23:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the premaxilla is too short for what's preserved (which is not nearly the entire thing), causing the eyes to be too far back. The bulging eyes also don't seem very likely, especially considering that they depicted here as being larger than the orbits. Not sure about the external ear opening either. It is nice to see a hupehsuchian restored with normal-looking paddles though, some of our current reconstructions are really badly shrinkwrapped there. --Slate Weasel [Talk - Contribs] 17:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Telmatosaurus should be reviewed at WP:DINOART. IIRC early diverging hadrosauromorphs wouldn't have had the Edmontosaurus-like hands but not sure and don't have time to double-check at the moment. Skye McDavid (talk) 16:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the above points. The right arm seems out of the comfortable range of motion. I'll also add that the tail is much too long based on related taxa. -SlvrHwk (talk) 04:24, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Inabtanin looks nice. I wonder if the 'finger' part of the wing should be longer, considering how long the first wing phalanx is. The background might also be distractingly saturated. Could it be lightened a little? -SlvrHwk (talk) 04:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Two illustrations of mekosuchines. The first one displays the diversity of the group, comparing Paludirex, Quinkana, Mekosuchus and Baru darrowi (to scale). The other is a size comparisson of Quinkana fortirostrum with a human based on the estimates of Flannery (1990) and Sobbe et al. (2013).
I also got a skull recon in the works but that will take some more time to finish and recieve feedback from a first hand source so really thats not relevant right now.Armin Reindl (talk) 21:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A colored-pencil sketch of Equus ovodovi, taking into account the general cranial proportions of Equus coliemensis (the only Sussemione with skull material) and the general body and limb proportions of zebras and wild asses, the clades most closely related to Sussemiones. Coloration primarily inspired by Asiatic and African wild asses. Dynamoterror1011 (talk) 17:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gracilisuchus generally looks fine, but the lower jaw seems too tall. There is some crushing in MCZ 4117 but the thinness of the lower jaw is fairly consistent across specimens. Either way, this is a substantial improvement over the current image. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 02:55, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello everyone, if you know the subject of mosasaurs, you have most likely already come across this image of Dimitri Bogdanov reconstructing a Tylosaurus proriger, which was even used in certain studies. Although reconstitution seems good for the body, it is still very bad and obsolete for the tail. I therefore suggest that a user skilled in editing can correct this error, so that it can be used appropriately in an article. Amirani1746 (talk) 21:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Here's the file in question :[reply]
I wonder if we even need it anymore, since there are many other accurate restorations of it here? Won't be easy to edit since the entire posture is outdated. FunkMonk (talk) 00:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Surprisingly, not that much ! There's only two reconstruction of T. proriger on Wikimedia : one which is slightly more recent (2015) than this one (2007). It doesn't appear to have ever been discussed here, but is probably, although a bit bendy, more on par with modern understanding of their anatomy. The second one is from 2022 and passed review, but presents the inconvenient of not using a white background. If somebody could correct that, that would be useful to replace the one from 2007. Both are from Bogdanov.
Honestly, in the English wiki, the 2007 image is barely used anymore aside from the Mooreville Chalk and the Matanuska Formation, so we could just remove the earliest recon and substitute them the more recent ones. Tylosaurus has a substantial research history article, and (although a bit skinwrapped) the 2007 recon seems to be pretty accurate to the knowledge of the animal at the time, so it could maybe be used in that article as an historical interpretation, and as such it is probably better to keep it as it is currently. Larrayal (talk) 04:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's also this NT one already with a white background that would be pretty easy to fix the tail of for use in cladograms:[14] Perhaps should also not show individual fingers and hide teeth? FunkMonk (talk) 05:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A skull reconstruction and size comparisson of Paranacaiman. The skull reconstruction features a generalized skull shape and is based on a reconstruction of the holotype skull table. Missing sutures are inferred based on the general anatomy of close relatives like Acresuchus, Purussaurus neivensis and Mourasuchus atopus.Armin Reindl (talk) 12:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reconstruction as a plioplatecarpine following recent phylogenetic studies, updating from previous reconstructions as a mosasaurine. Head is based on Lingham-Soliar (1991), while body proportions are based on the Los Angeles Platecarpus skeleton. Macrophyseter | talk21:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've been working on a bunch of stuff this week with a focus on a few archosaurs and a bunch of cynodonts, but I saw this guy got published so I decided to drop what I was doing to get a quick life restoration out. I'll be putting the rest of my stuff up for review in the next few days, expect around 10-15 taxa. SeismicShrimp (talk) 20:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just before someone jumps in to say the canine should be covered, Tasmanian devils often have exposed canines (as I like to point out). FunkMonk (talk) 09:12, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The American mastodon I drew recently, the Borston's is an older drawing that someone on the WikiPaleo Discord server asked I post here, leaving them both here for review now. Olmagon (talk) 00:57, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some of these were uploaded more than a year ago but for whatever reason never got reviewed. Others were completed around that time but weren't uploaded. I was hoping to add Macrocnemus to this collection but I'm not sure if (or when) I'll ever get to that. The two multi-specimen diagrams are restricted to those with published length estimates or mostly complete skeletons. The Trachelosauridae (Dinocephalosauridae) chart is similarly confined to only the genera with sufficient size information to avoid OR (as much as I wanted to add the two taxa named last year...).
I see no major anatomical issues. I wonder, however, if it would be more appropriate to restore Pectodens in a walking posture. Likewise, I wonder if a standing, not sitting posture for Langobardisaurus would be less misleading wrt its limb proportions. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 03:41, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Two diagrams for Inabtanin (a new putative azhdarchoid) plus Moganopterus and Pterodaustro—two ctenochasmatids that have been on my to-do list for quite some time.
Can you show an overlay of the skull of Pterodaustro over your silhouette? I'm confused by what's going on with the back of the skull, as the mandible seems to articulate significantly below the level of where I'd expect the quadrate to be. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 03:51, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lythronaxargestes / Skye McDavid, see here. I think the issue is that Pterodaustro is just a weird animal? It's also worth mentioning that there is some skull shape variation in the various fossils and reconstructions, which is why I referenced one of the most recent published ones. -SlvrHwk (talk) 19:10, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
a 3d skeletal reconstruction of cladoselache using updated methods and information of cladoselache and its realtives to fill in gaps and fix certain elements EvolutionIncarnate (talk) 2:30, 11 september 2024
Hello. It's been a while. If I may, can I ask for a review of my drawing? This time I tried to reconstruct an Echovenator... I mostly based the reconstruction from here for the skull [16] and this restoration on Wikipedia for the body Xenorophidae . I am aware that I am kind of playing safe and giving the head not much tissue? But I want to make the reconstruction a bit conservative since we dont know how big are the tissue especially the one that involve in echolocation in primitive toothed whale... So that is my reasoning for the reconstruction. Is my image good enough to be put at the Echovenator page? Thank you...
I am sorry if I assume wrongly, but if there are no major issues, is it good enough to be use for the Echovenator page? DD (talk) 13:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah you are right.. I just opened the Albertocetus and I am aware that it is not as elongated as my reconstruction... Thank you very much and I will have to fix that.. DD (talk) 12:29, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I made a quick reconstruction depicting Zhenghecaris as a peytoiid radiodont. This interpretation is backed by Zeng et al. (2017), Moysiuk and Caron (2019), and Moysiuk and Caron (2021). Specifically, Zeng et al. described additional elements of the cephalic complex in the form of isolated lateral elements similar in construction and overall form to Zhenghecaris. The appendages are based on Cambroraster, as is the body. The background elements of the reconstruction are Isoxys and Eoredlichia. Prehistorica CM (talk) 09:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I would be happy to undertake the task if some reference images could be provided. Stuff like skeletal reconstructions, description on how the animal would have looked in life, this sort of thing. Paleo Miguel (talk) 23:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Thank you for reply! The paper decribing Owadowia include a photos of holotype specimen. The most distinctive feature for this taxon is the short and massive snout.
Generally speaking, I do not see any serious anatomical errors. The snout is short and massive, the skull looks wide, but this is probably due to the perspective that is presented. In my opinion it is great and looks very natural. Thanks for taking on this reconstruction! Aventadoros (talk) 17:31, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Decided to make one more radidont that took longer than expected. To model the appendages I downloaded the raw CT data, put it into Blender, and modelled the podomeres and endites to follow the holotype, as well as referencing the description of course. I gave it 4 sets of GLS associated with reduced flaps, although reduced flaps are not preserved, and the GLS are incompletely known. I feel that this is reasonable speculation given the apparently elongate neck region. I put the setal blades on the dorsal surface of the flaps as well, which I believe better represents the fossil evidence, where in Shucaris they are seemingly only associated with the flaps, rather than the trunk. Something similar is also seen in Amplectobelua and Lyrarapax. Regarding the Erratus, I gave it generic, upward facing frontal appendages given its phylogenetic placement, even though this area is completely missing in the fossils.
Regarding the existing appendage illustrations, I wish to suggest (and if they choose to ignore these comments it does not bother me,) that the relative proportions of the podomeres be changed slightly to better reflect the holotype. I will admit that not every appendage presented in the description looks alike, but most commonly, and also in the holotype, there is a very distinct increase in podomere height, starting at the first DAR (distal articulated region, "claw") podomere, maxing out at the joint between the 3rd and 4th DAR podomere, and shallowing out until the 7th DAR podomere. Here, the podomeres are rectangular and tall - but towards the distal portion they are almost completely square in profile. Importantly, the shaft podomeres are shorter than the succeeding podomeres, and the second shaft podomere (BP1 in the description) is wider at the bottom then at the top, similar to amplectobeluids. The first shaft podomere (BP2) is even shorter and more elongate. Wawrow's model already presents this quite well. Altogether, this is what gives Shucaris appendages their very distinct crook-shape, which you can see in most fossils ascribed to it. This is what gives it the name "ankylosskelos" ("curved leg"). I think it would be best if the representative diagrams show this very important characteristic of the appendage. As far as I know, Wawrow is planning to make these adjustments to their model soon. Sorry for the paragraph Prehistorica CM (talk) 04:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My only minor concern on the full body reconstruction is the amount of (at least for now, on the general understanding of radiodont anatomy) unusual speculative features. But since their plausibility was formally mentioned elsewhere I think It's Ok afterall.
Requesting for uploading a skeletal drawing of Shuilingornis I made. It was revisioned by Andrea Cau (one of the authors of the paper describing the Holotype). Thanks in advice.
Thank you for adding this in here, apologies for not properly following reviewing protocol. Any image I make I will link into here first. I also have a Crossopholis image I could add in here (I can take it down from the pages for now). 2001:1970:546A:4400:2560:DF58:EF42:EC94 (talk) 18:42, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for the late reply, I just came back from the UK. I see the artist has already taken notice of the scale areas (very well preserved in Meiolania) but I should highlight that this should extend to the "horns". As is they very much appear to be illustrated akin to bovid horns, i.e. clearly set apart from the rest of the skull, when chances are that they'd be similar in texture to the rest of the head given that its not that different in structure. Nothing against giving them a dash of colour of course (I did so for my reconstructions) given that they were likely used for display to some extent.
Tho a respectable effort, you might also want to reconsider the perspective and proportions of the drawing. The way the horn in the back protrudes from the skull, the placement of the eye and the overall top of the head don't add up.
While the coloration of extinct animals obviously deviates from living ones and this should not be counted as an inaccuracy, do note that the pink coloration seen on the underside in most photos of Psephurus is the result of bruising/stress, and not the animal's natural colors. If that is indeed the motivation for the pink snout and head here, I would suggest against including that. If that is included as a unique, speculative feature of Parasephurus then i see no issues whatsoever. It's great to see some interest to fossil paddlefish, especially Crossopholis.Gasmasque (talk) 00:38, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to becoming a trend for at least some dinosaur paleoart, I guess because some modern birds have it. Are we sure it would be unlikely in these cases? An easy fix either way, but I think @LiterallyMiguel: is active and reachable, so they should probably do it themselves. FunkMonk (talk) 23:11, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough if this is not condition in birds. These are crocodile-line archosaurs though, rather than dinosaurs, thought given that the strong differences from modern crocidilians I'm not sure how useful they are as a guide. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, yes i speculated with partially open nostrils with some birds and reference, since the nostril holes on their skull are really big, and their separation is really thin, but if it's not the most plausible i can happily close it LiterallyMiguel (talk) 21:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
oh sorry, next time will ad theme there before. are them good or i gotta change something on the reconstructions? note that those are simple sketches just to put a reconstruction for these poorly known taxa, will do more of these in the future for extinct mysterious species. UniverseScienceItaly (talk) 13:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Phanagoroloxodon looks decent given that's only known from skull material, and seems to accurately reflect the known skull morphology. I'll need to consult a copy of Evolution and Fossil Record of African Proboscidea for the other two species, which I'll try to do in the next couple of days. Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:09, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just added a new rencostruction of a newly described genus of pliocene Gray whale from Italy. there is not a page for this taxon yet bu here a full reconstruction of the poorly known genus. UniverseScienceItaly (talk) 11:43, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I am aware this is inaccurate reconstruction, but more problem is that should this image exist in Commons? This reconstruction is based on model made by et:Elga Mark-Kurik, in exhibit of Natural History Museum of Helsinki. In the EU, copyright lasts 70 years after death. The skin color, face, and tail fin shape of this illustration are similar to the model in question, and there is a fear that copyright issues may arise due to this. Even in Japan, there are pros and cons to using this model of Sacabambaspis commercially. For products produced by companies, they have a licensing agreement with his son, Simo Mark-Kurik. Any opinions for that? Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 15:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They're all very good at a glance. My only comment is that its a bit difficult to tell which of these creatures should have fur. Obviously the unambiguous mammals and unambiguous reptiles are fine, but when it comes to stem-mammals, the drawings become difficult to interpret. A Cynical Idealist (talk) 23:39, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The description paper used a fossil peccary skeleton (can't remember which one) for the paper but it's an eocene whippomorph, it probably had the most work done out of any of the restorations in this post. SeismicShrimp (talk) 02:05, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello all. Can I ask for another review for my reconstruction? This time i tried to reconstruct Helaletes that is mainly based on the skeleton image on its Wiki page. Also I used modern day tapirs for additional reference but making it skinnier based on the skeletal proportion difference. So if I may, is my reconstruction good enough to be put at Helaletes page? Thank you in advance...
I am asking for a review of my artwork of Deltaherpeton, a Colosteid from the upper Viséan of Iowa. References used are as follows: The skull reconstruction was based on the figures and photographs of the linked paper [1]. Postcranial anatomy of the reconstruction was based on the linked paper [2] with the exception of the forelimb anatomy, which was based on paper [3]. Coloration, fat/skin placement, and musculature is roughly based on extant amphibians, such as general amphibian anatomy and Giant Salamanders (Andrias).
Both of these images were added to the Taurovenator page without review, both by
@César Díaz Frías: since I intend to pick at the article over the next couple of days I figured it was worth checking in. They seem solid to my eye, outside of a bit of wonky perspective on the head reconstruction (although that's definitely a nitpick on my part!).
I know that Dire wolf already has a life restoration on its page, but I was wondering if this one might be better. It's an illustration published by the United States National Park Service. Do you think it might be worth replacing the one already there? Di (they-them) (talk) 19:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As this section of the Mosasaurus article says, the size of M. lemonnieri is estimated by its describer Louis Dollo to join around 7 to 10 m (23 to 33 ft) long. However the diagram showing the size of the largest known specimen shows it as reaching 12 m (39 ft) long, probably being based on the likely incorrect estimate of Paul (2022). I even doubt that the code name of the specimen (IRSNB R 3189) is correct, but that remains to be seen. I thank in advance anyone will solve this problem, best regards, Amirani1746 (talk) 11:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]