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Ca ^{talk to me!} 08:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, how are you?

Given your interest in TESCREAL, I suppose you might also be interested in this topic of existential risk studies, which I have decided to make. If you do have an interest to take a look, it is in my [drafts]. I have also submitted the article to review, a process which I have zero experience with. Feel free to give any advice or proposition of change.

Bye. JoaquimCebuano (talk) 03:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hey. ill take a look.

idk the exact details but WP:CANVASSING

may discourage asking for folks who happen to agree with you often from approving work.

ill still take a look but im not the most knowledgeable about most existential risk philosophies, just happened to have noticed TESCREAL had been deleted and thought that it seemed egregious that it had been removed like that. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 06:34, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I didnt know this rule. The article was still in my drafts that moment, so it would more about suggestions. But it was quite a fast process of approval anyway, just a few minutes. JoaquimCebuano (talk) 18:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want to start an (open-ended?) move discussion for Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence, now that the deletion discussion is over? IIRC you mentioned an interest in changing the article title during the AfD.

I have some experience with move discussions under my belt now ;)

— Jruderman (talk) 09:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. started a section. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:59, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi; at topics related to the Israel-Arab conflict, editors are restricted to one revert every 24 hours: An editor must not perform more than one reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes or manually reverses other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert.

You have made two reverts within a 24 hour period:

1. 13:21, 6 August 2024
2. 20:28, 5 August 2024

Please self-revert 13:21, 6 August 2024 to bring yourself back into compliance with this restriction. BilledMammal (talk) 13:29, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:44, 7 August 2024 seems like another 1RR violation, coming less than 24 hours after your 13:21, 6 August 2024 revert - please self-revert again. BilledMammal (talk) 23:21, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 23:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't want to have to take you to AE over this, but if your only response is "no" I don't have much choice - can you at least explain why you feel a revert is not required? BilledMammal (talk) 23:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They don't count a revert then self-revert as a revert in editwarring. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 23:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The self-revert (13:51, 6 August 2024) doesn't count, but the initial revert (13:21, 6 August 2024) can, particularly when it is on the same content.

You've reinstated this content four times now, three of them in less than 48 hours; I think it would be in your best interests to self revert. BilledMammal (talk) 23:28, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. If you want to intimidate, you're failing. If you want to report, get it over with already. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 23:28, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fyi, the 1R rule only applies to the AI/IP material. Selfstudier (talk) 15:18, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I'm the creator of Draft:List of BL dramas that you recently declined. Thank you for your comment, but I still find myself wondering why the article falls under WP:NOTDIRECTORY when directory lists like List of teen dramas exist. BL/Boys' love is a genre that falls under the category of LGBT works whose related lists can be found plenty in Wikipedia, and the existence of BL is covered by reliable sources which can be seen in its main article Yaoi. I'm hoping to receive input on whether if I can improve the article for future resubmission. Thank you. — ‎‎‎hhypeboyh 💬 • ✏️ 00:13, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HypeBoy ah.. Ok, maybe declining was a mistake.

I didn't fully read the WP:NLIST and WP:NOTADIRECTORY. If you submit again, ill accept.

Im still a probationary AFC reviewer and got review powers last month, apologies! Bluethricecreamman (talk) 00:19, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluethricecreamman: I see, no worries! I just resubmitted the draft article, I'm hoping you can accept the submission, please. Thank you. — ‎‎‎hhypeboyh 💬 • ✏️ 00:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bluethricecreamman,

I'm just wondering why you put your comment at the top of this discussion instead of the bottom. I was going to move it but thought it would be better if I asked you about it. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

whoops. fixed. sorry! Bluethricecreamman (talk) 12:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This was a cool find[1]. What search engine did you use to find references to the UNHR report? Did you just use google scholar? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 16:14, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vice regent yeah google scholar. i have to open up the article though and check which journal it was and if it wasnt some junk journal Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:59, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello @Bluethricecreamman I've noticed your work on some pages that are currently the subject of or close to becoming an edit war, I've also noticed the same but don't know nearly as much about editing Wiki (and am not an extended user anywho) but I'd like to report users I feel are continuously engaging in vandalism of pages. Is there anyway to do this? Currently the Arb-com method seems to be the only thing and I struggle to follow how it works honestly? Galdrack (talk) 12:02, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

report vandalism to WP:AIV

if you want help go message an admin’s talk page. i think @ScottishFinnishRadish is pretty active in patrolling this area Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluethricecreamman thanks I reached out about one event though wanted to bring something to your attention too since you included me in the conversation too. In my opinion neither user is behaving very well but IMO the work done on that page has been so poorly sourced it feels like vandalism itself? I'd like to know your input before getting involved. Galdrack (talk) 17:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

talk to an admin. I am not that much more experienced than these "bad" users.

See @ScottishFinnishRadish Bluethricecreamman (talk) 17:25, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluethricecreamman thanks I didn't want to overwhelm the one person. Galdrack (talk) 18:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My advice: do edits to other pages besides these until you are WP:ECR allowed.

I started off doing edits to high conflict pages, but was told off for it when I didn't have EC. Instead worked on sprucing up pages for professors and on AI related pages for a bit until I had ECR. I still take breaks from high conflict areas too. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 18:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluethricecreamman Yea what I've been trying the past few months the problem I've had is a lot of these articles haven't been clear they're related and the rules on the site being as they are it's hard to figure out how to determine if they're related. Like don't get me wrong I can understand the interpretation it's related but I feel it's being abused in some circumstances to restrict edits from users too, to me the warning I've received recently weren't clearly under the ruling at all but semi.

I appreciate your input in the posts by the way, thanks. Galdrack (talk) 19:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I want mediation! The first editor suggested rewriting. The second editor unilaterally rejected the article (which is valuable and acceptable for Wikipedia.) and now you have unilaterally rejected the article.

There are many articles about various types of martial arts and this is just another one.

I am very disheartened with Wikipedia. Giving unilateral power to one person to just reject articles with no recourse.

I have spent about a month on this article. Researching copious amounts of appropriate data. Writing and rewriting the article.

I want an unbiased arbitrator or mediator.

I am new to Wikipedia, what is the process for getting arbitration? Bushido77 (talk) 01:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles must be WP:NOTABLE with no WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH.

You need to prove, without research, that christian martial arts is a notable topic. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 01:48, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I already proved it. More than 30 books and magazine articles, plus as many Christian ministries.

That is enough proof! I want mediation.

You cannot be the unilateral final authority.

What steps are involved in initiating mediation? Bushido77 (talk) 01:52, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For example, you cannot interpret Bible verses yourself on Wikipedia. That's original research.

You also need to pick better sources. GotQuestions.org is not reliable.

And simply using a book title you searched up on Google Books that have christian martial arts as a vague theme is not a notable fact. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 01:51, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did not simply give titles. In most cases I gave links to the books themselves or Google books.

An appropriate thing would be to reject the article for rewriting. But you unilaterally omit all my work.

How can I initiate arbitration? Bushido77 (talk) 01:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You tell me I need better sources while at the same time you tell me it is "contrary to Wikipedia purposes", which one is it? They seem mutually exclusive.

How can I get an unbiased mediator? Bushido77 (talk) 01:58, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First, stop WP:SHOUTING and using bold text. Second, if you want, you can resubmit. I took a look at your previous contributions and saw you haranguing the guy who previously rejected the article. And third, what are you suggesting when you type "initiate arbitration"? Bluethricecreamman (talk) 01:59, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The art WP:SHOUTING article allows for bold type.

I was not haranguing anyone. I worked hard on that article (about a month of research and rewriting) only to have it shot down unilaterally by individuals with no opportunity to re-work it.

I am new to Wikipedia editing and there must be some type of mediation or arbitration when I feel the editor is wrong and unwilling to help.

I am just asking what is the process for doing so? Bushido77 (talk) 02:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you really want, resubmit as a draft and another reviewer will take a look. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 02:00, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to resubmit as a draft.

Wikipedia editing is exhausting. I provide valuable and well-researched information and one person unilaterally can throw it all away. Bushido77 (talk) 02:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The rules behind wikipedia take time to learn. I apologize that you worked so hard on that page without some feedback first. I posted a welcome page on your talk page. Your draft will not be deleted for 6 months.

Practice on some other pages and come back to the draft later when you have some free time. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 02:09, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have practiced on other pages. And the frustration builds. As a matter of fact, I copied the format for this article from another martial arts page.

I understand a learning curve, but a complete rejection without the ability to edit and rewrite the article is uncalled for, and in my opinion, simply wrong.

I read that one of the primary rules of editing is to make changes yourself to help the page into compliance. That seems to rarely happen if ever. Bushido77 (talk) 02:14, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

though we hope to keep you on the project, this is all WP:VOLUNTARY. we are not obliged to answer or soothe your frustrations at the end of the day or to accept any work from anyone.

this is probably my final reply to you. please work on another article and learn the ropes slowly Bluethricecreamman (talk) 02:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. I will try and find Wikipedia's method for arbitration or mediation. There must be some method to address bias. Bushido77 (talk) 02:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bushido77 Bluethricecreamman is right. Among other things, you are using self-published books from Trafford Publishing, Authorhouse, and you used CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform 7 times. "Meditations of a Christian Martial Artist" is published by the author so can't be used. Read WP:RS.There is no arbitration procedure for this and you were told that, why are you asking for it again?. Note that I have over 250,000 edits so I do have quite a bit of experience with article.

This might be a notable topic, Google seems to have sources writing about it although I haven't looked at those. But your article is unacceptable.

I see that at Evangelism User:Golikom reverted an edit of yours saying "Undid revision 1249347637 by Bushido77 (talk)Stop it. This is not properly sourced, contains a load of original research and is not written in an encyclopaedic way.' which is the problem you have here. Doug Weller talk 07:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your feedback but you are wrong. More than 30 books and more than 30 Christian martial arts ministries certainly qualify it for Wikipedia.

What is the process to request unbiased arbitration or mediation?

You guys don't even get your responses straight.

• the first guy said it is not written encyclopedic - so I rewrote it
• the second guy said it is not valid for inclusion in Wikipedia
• the third guy said it is not notable
• you say it may be notable but you reject the sources

Wikipedia must have some method of unbiased dispute resolution. Your word cannot be the final say.

There must be some reason you won't tell me how to initiate mediation. Bushido77 (talk) 12:38, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah you read Golikom's responses. But that does not change the fact that I sourced legitimate Ph.D.s for support... and apparently he disagreed with the Ph.D.s and unilaterally rejected those edits.

If there is no way to get unbiased mediation, that is really pitiful. Bushido77 (talk) 12:40, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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