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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by I dream of horses were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

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Unsourced, not neutral.

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I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 15:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Cerium4B! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 15:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by I dream of horses were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Unsourced, not neutral.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 15:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by I dream of horses were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Unsourced, not neutral

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 15:55, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Pirganj Upazila, Rangpur, you added links pointing to the disambiguation pages Dinajpur District and Nawabganj Upazila.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 19:54, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm Arjayay. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Jeet (actor), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 11:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it’s not needed.

I’m adding with references again.

thanks for informing me! Cerium4B (talk) 12:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Bangladesh Military Museum. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:12, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for telling me. Cerium4B (talk) 15:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk) 21:33, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I noticed that you tried to move the page Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman Expressway to Mawa Expressway. But the page wasn’t properly moved. There is some rules to maintain here. First you have to use the move feature to move any page. Secondly, we can move any road's page only when its name changed by authority officially. If the government officially changed the road's name then you can move the page to new page. But still, it is possible to move page before official declaration. As Wikipedia maintains WP:COMMONNAME, naming the page based on the subject's common name would be better idea. Bangabandhu Expressway is the official name, the most common name used for it is "Dhaka–Bhanga Expressway". In that case moving it to "Mawa Expressway" is not a good idea. But the issue is I tried to move the page to "Dhaka–Bhanga Expressway" but as the targeted page is a redirect to the subject I am facing technical difficulties to do that. In that case proposing it for moving discussion is the solution and I am going to do it now. So please wait untill the move discussion reaches conclusion and after that a mover will move the page. The process will be easier if you vote on the discussion. I will give the link for the discussion soon. Mehedi Abedin 22:43, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

I’ve moved another page , the jamuna bridge 😶 Cerium4B (talk) 22:47, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cerium4B Well, are recent sources call it by "Jamuna Bridge"? if not, then it is not right as it is against Wikipedia guidelines. We should wait for official declaration from the government first. But I guess Jamuna Bridge is the common name so there should not be any issue.

Here is the move discussion: Talk:Bangabandhu_Sheikh_Mujibur_Rahman_Expressway#Requested_move_17_October_2024 Mehedi Abedin 22:52, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the Jamuna Bridge page move as it was not moved using the move function (and previous people's contribution was erased). And from google search I am seeing that recent source from 1 September 2024 still calls it by Bangabandhu Bridge. In this situation if I bring it to the discussion people will vote in favor of Bangabandhu Bridge as recent sources don't call it as Jamuna Bridge. If we can not get consensus then it will not be possible to move the page. I suggest we wait for government's order for its name change. Mehedi Abedin 00:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Rajarbag Police Lines School and College, Dhaka, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 13:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It’s not any business

It’s a school of Dhaka, Bangladesh

you can check their website.

https://www.rplsc.edu.bd Cerium4B (talk) 13:26, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I guess it's more of an organization, but the article was still deleted by Jimfbleak, who agreed with me that it was an ad. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 13:27, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

😒

It’s a prominent school of Bangladesh. Cerium4B (talk) 13:28, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If that's the case, someone will eventually write a more neutral article on it eventually. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 13:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote the article in a completely neutral way. Just did not add any source. I thought I would add sources later. But you deleted it.

You are responsible for this, instead of helping Wikipedia, you are not allowing articles to be added.

Before nominating an article for deletion you should check, u could google that!

You should retrieve the article! Cerium4B (talk) 13:38, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it could be restored as an articles for creation draft, but since you actually weren't writing neutrally, it might be deleted again. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 13:40, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I see above it's already a draft. Just edit the draft. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 13:42, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I dream of horses. Cerium4B, your draft, as well as lacking any independent third-party sources, has non-neutral claims like offering a secure and well-maintained campus spread across 10 acres. The campus... features modern academic buildings... has consistently performed well in public examinations. It seems an odd strategy to write text withoiut knowing that you can find sources independent of the school to support what you have written Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:26, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

U could have removed them or asked for citations, couldn’t u? Cerium4B (talk) 15:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would've asked for citations while moving the article to draftspace. Alas, there's already a draft on the school. Perhaps you should spend time improving it. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 17:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm Worldbruce. I noticed that you recently removed content from Divisions of Bangladesh without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Our former Prime Minister Hasina proposed the form of Padma, Meghna division. Since she has resigned and fleed away, these 2 divisions will never form.

thats why I removed those data to avoid confusion because padma and meghna are two major rivers of Bangladesh Cerium4B (talk) 13:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no way of knowing whether the divisions will or wont ever be formed. Whether they are or not, the fact that their proposal has been written about widely in independent reliable sources means that they should be covered in the article Divisions of Bangladesh. Wikipedia readers are not stupid. They are unlikely to confuse text about Meghna Division and Padma Division with information about the Meghna River and Padma River. --Worldbruce (talk) 23:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:49, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why r u thinking that It’s an advertisement????

It’s a educational institution in dhaka Bangladesh

Check their website- http://rplsc.edu.bd/

do search on google for more informations! Cerium4B (talk) 14:52, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Police Lines School and College, Bogura and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please review our policies on notability and verifiability. It is pointless to submit for review drafts which are completely unreferenced, as they fail both policies, and cannot therefore be accepted. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Isn’t the official website enough?

users could expand it later! Cerium4B (talk) 14:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The notability policies are more about whether or not someone/something has been noted by those not associated with them. The official website is absolutely associated with the people who made it. If you see an article that only references the website, don't use it as an example to write a good Wikipedia article, either to yourself or others. Instead, consider adding cleanup tags or even nominating the article for deletion. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 15:43, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cerium4B! Your additions to Police Lines School and College, Rangpur have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, it's important to understand and adhere to guidelines about using information from sources to prevent copyright and plagiarism issues. Here are the key points:

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Hello. I wanted to let you know that in your recent contributions to Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur, you seemed to act as if you were the owner of the page. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. This means that editors do not own articles, including ones they create, and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, remember that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. --Worldbruce (talk) 06:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Worldbruce

Could you clarify why you assumed I’m the owner? I didn’t create the article; I only added information. All the details I provided were completely neutral. This is a school in northern Bangladesh—why not look it up on Google? It’s important to understand that schools typically don’t appear in newspapers without a significant incident.

Thank you! Cerium4B (talk) 06:52, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Everything was fine

You started to remove informations from the educational institutions of Bangladesh.

And when I added references you marked them as incorrect.

and now you are saying that I’m doing edit war!

why aren’t you accepting those references? If you can’t read Bengali then translate them! Cerium4B (talk) 17:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We have translated these references, but they do not support the statements made. They are simply fluff pieces on the students. For example, source two does not state that the school is "also known as CPSCR is a private educational institution under the Board of Intermediate and Secondary Education, Dinajpur."

You can't just put random articles in there stating they are references. A reference has to prove/support the claims made in the article. These references do not do that. Please study the rules of Wikipedia, especially WP:V and the template we put on the sources: Template:Failed verification.

If you do not understand what is happening, I must point you to WP:CIR, you must be able to engage with the rules and other users to edit Wikipedia.

Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk) 18:52, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to verify whether the school exists and its ranking, those news links should be enough. All the references are valid, but they might not have been used in the right places. This issue came up because @Worldbruce had already removed the information related to the references, and he didn't ask for any citation.

Obviously, the school's short name, "CPSCR," won't be mentioned in the newspapers.

If you are sitting abroad and expect news coverage for every minor detail, that’s not a reasonable approach. How can you expect so much news about a school?

The way you talk makes it sound like every school makes headlines in the newspaper every day.

I didn’t even advertise the school, nor did I praise it. I just added informations. Anyone who reads the article will understand that. Yet, @Worldbruce said he thought I was the owner of the school 😂. @Worldbruce , you may have been using Wikipedia for many years, but you seem to have forgotten that Wikipedia is always developed by ordinary people. Stop being arrogant.

If you can, try to verify the information without removing it, by checking Google or asking for citations if needed. But removing information based on guesses and nominating it for deletion is not right. As a citizen of Bangladesh, I am well-acquainted with the country's reputable institutions, probably more than most who are not from here.

I have nothing more to say.

Keep removing details from Wikipedia and deleting articles.

Best of luck.

@Worldbruce

@Speederzzz Cerium4B (talk) 21:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]