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{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
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The programming block is for the original American Disney Channel only! If there are other programming blocks with this name, none are as notable as this, hence/thus has its own article! This is for Southeast Asia, which may or may not have a programming block with this name, but like I stated, it'll be non-notable compared to this one. Intrisit (talk) 12:41, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Three (3) RMs (1, 2 & 3) have been (already) done for similar but different titles. If 162 etc. answers my question, de-list as withdrawn and I'll start an RfC on it like Gonnym stated in those RMs. Intrisit (talk) 12:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Three RMs that should've been relisted for further participation or closed as "no consensus" once the arguably WP:Canvassed participant was discounted don't exactly strongly support a broad renaming of all related articles. RachelTensions (talk) 15:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Whiteberry EP does not currently have an article. WP:ALBUMDAB: "Unless more than one article about albums of the same name exist, there is no need to disambiguate any further."Unless the Whiteberry EP gains an article then the Melanie Martinez EP is fine in its current location. RachelTensions (talk) 04:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This looks like a WP:ENGVAR issue to me, not a spelling error. Hans Christian Andersen uses British English, so presumably all his associated articles should follow suit for consistency's sake ("Travelling") unless there are reliable sources to reinforce moving it to "Traveling", which would be the American spelling. RachelTensions (talk) 16:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I am aware Hans wrote in Danish not in British English, it looks like the original translation was done by a British translator though (source) so I am willing to accept that as the spelling of the English translation and remove that request in case that's how translation are handled on Wikipedia Mathspy (talk) 16:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:
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Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.
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{{subst:requested move|New name|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}
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}}
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(Discuss) – 3200 metres → 3200 meters – Want to change article title to American English, but the American English version currently is a redirect back to British English version. The reasoning behind this is that the 3200 meter run is primarily contested at American high school meets and thus should reflect American English in my opinion (1600 meters does this as well). KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 17:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 17:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Feeglgeef (talk) 00:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – HomeKit → Apple Home – Proposing page be renamed Apple Home to reflect the name of the platform, whereas the current name (HomeKit) is one of two supported software frameworks that work inside the platform. The intro sentence should also be rewritten to something like "Apple Home is a smart home platform that uses the HomeKit and Matter software frameworks. Shivertimbers433 (talk) 02:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:17, 18 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping>06:21, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can see, though I may be wrong, this article is one of the only places to refer to this review as "periodic". Of the Boundary Commissions, they all refer to it as "2023 Review of Parliamentary constituencies", with England shorting it to "2023 Review" and Wales to "2023 Parliamentary Review", whilst Scotland and NI do not shorten it in their titles. The HoC calls it "Boundary review 2023", the BBC a "Boundary review" and from a Google search of "2023 periodic review of Westminster constituencies" the only link on the first page that uses that wording is to this page. Additionally this review is not "periodic" continuing from the previous reviews, referred to as as such with ordinals on Wikipedia and other sources, according to legislation, as amended in 2020, the Parliamentary Constituencies Act 1986 requires the Boundary Commissions to report "(a) before 1 July 2023,(b) before 1 October 2031, and (c) before 1 October of every eighth year after that." As Wikipedia is meant to use titles which are in common use and recognisable, I propose that the title be changed and any references to it as well.LandmarkFilly54 (talk) 16:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
(Discuss) – Training centre for release of the Atma-energy → Trainingszentrum zur Freisetzung der Atmaenergie – The current title we have is a literal, incorrectly capitalized translation of the group's actual proper name, which has never seen use in English RS. Every English source refers to this as either Atman Foundation or Isis Holistic Centre, which are also options (though I think they are actually factually incorrect) - but using a literal translation of a proper name that has never been used by anyone not on Wikipedia is perhaps the worst way to do it. Proper names are usually left untranslated in lieu of an actual English title. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 1925 Tri-State tornado → Great Tri-State Tornado – This is one of very few, if not the only, tornado where the name itself disambiguates it from others, so let's get rid of the year before it's 100th. Most sources don't use the year as the tornado's title - it's either Tri-State, or Great Tri-State. I'm going to let both be options favoring Great Tri-State so there's less room for ambiguation with other tri-state area tornadoes. Departure– (talk) 21:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Francis Williams (poet) → Francis Williams (18th century) – "Poet" is clearly not the best way to describe this person. In his lifetime he would have been called a gentleman, which I think is anachronistic for Wikipedia. His main job was a plantation master but this is not what he is known for. His most notable contribution is to astronomy (see Halley's Comet), but he was not a career astronomer. He also made minor contributions to poetry and to local education in Jamaica. I suggest that "Francis Williams (18th century)" is the most neutral title available. See Francis Williams for reference. NotBartEhrman (talk) 18:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Migration → Migration (disambiguation) – The entire article uses the term migration instead of human migration, except the first paragraph. This article is the primary topic of Migration, as confirmed by the hatnotes and the sources actually used by the article. Using the title Human migration fails WP:ASTONISH since readers expect to read about pre-historic migration patterns from such title. Kenneth Kho (talk) 07:45, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – World Masters of Snooker → ? – The tournament in the current 24/25 season has been renamed Riyadh Season Snooker Championship. General tournament pages generally reflect the most recent name of the event. Possible suggestions from me include Snooker Championship—not ideal because it sounds vague and could be confused with the World Championship—and Riyadh Season Snooker Championship—also not ideal because it includes the sponsor name, going against convention. I would welcome other suggestions. KDayne (talk) 17:13, 17 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. –𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ15:44, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Mufti Abdul Razzaq → Abdul Razzaq (scholar) – Previous attempts to rename this article were reverted on the grounds that it complies with Wikipedia's CommonName policy. However, based on my understanding, the title does not align with the policy's requirements. "Mufti" is an honorific title, and its inclusion in a CommonName is justified only when it is widely recognized and has become a fundamental part of the subject's identity, as in the cases of Mufti Mehmood or Maulana Azad. A comprehensive review indicates that the subject is not widely discussed in reliable sources, either in English or their native language, and lacks sufficient secondary sources. How, then, was the determination made that this is a CommonName? Coverage is limited, primarily consisting of breaking news after the subject’s death, with the majority of sources being relatively non-mainstream. While it is common for media to use titles in describing individuals, such usage does not necessarily equate to a CommonName under Wikipedia's criteria. –𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ14:29, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Template:Bangladeshi wedding → Template:Bengali wedding – Bengali weddings refer to the traditional wedding ceremonies of the Bengali ethnic group, who primarily reside in the Bengal region, which spans both India and Bangladesh. It’s important to note that the concept of Bangladesh as a separate country only emerged in 1971. Before that, the region was part of Pakistan, known as East Pakistan. Therefore, the wedding traditions are shared by Bengali people across both India and Bangladesh, as they belong to the same ethnic and cultural heritage. To clarify, just as Korean people live in both North and South Korea, Bengali people live in both India and Bangladesh. It’s misleading to describe Bengali weddings as specific to one country alone, as this neglects the shared cultural practices of Bengali people living in both nations. This old 2016 move Template:Bengali wedding to Template:Bangladeshi wedding was wrong and misleading. Note: Undiscussed Move and Edit Conflict 2016[[9]], 2018[missing history], 2019[[10]] Bongan®→TalkToMe←13:59, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Island Cove (Cavite) → Island Cove POGO Hub – As per WP:NATURALDAB, the main subject of the article is referred to as the "Island Cove POGO Hub" (or POGO Hub in Island Cove) which is officially known as PAGCOR POGO Hub Covelandia a name rarely used by WP:RS. While the islands have a history of hosting resorts (Island Cove), main subject of the article is the casino hub which catered to an overseas market Hariboneagle927 (talk) 14:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping>10:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Minsk District → Minsk district – Having moved regions of Belarus to lowercase "region", now it seems logical to also move districts in those regions to lowercase "district", as suggested at Talk:Brest region#Post-RM discussion, and as we've done with districts in many other countries. There appear to be 116 districts (correct me if I'm wrong), and besides these that are another 50 or so articles whose titles end with a Belarus district name, including mostly unneeded disambiguators, it appears, so we should fix those, too, if this RM passes (either lowercase them or removed the unneeded district disambiguators). Dicklyon (talk) 08:09, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Christmas and holiday season → Festive season – There have been a few move requests for this page over the years, including one which concluded just a few weeks ago. However, as far as I can see, there has never been a move request to this particular target article title. The present title, “Christmas and holiday season”, feels something of an awkward compromise title between “Christmas season” (which excludes other festivals in this period, such as Chanukah) and “holiday season”, which aside from other issues is ambiguous. “Festive season” is quite a commonly used term to refer to this period, while benefiting from very little ambiguity. It is a much more natural and straightforward article title for this page. Rafts of Calm (talk) 22:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Mighty Ducks (disambiguation) → Mighty Ducks – No clear primary topic, the franchise has 11,437 views but the film has 11,928, Game Changers has 7,266, The Animated Series has 3,954, Cincinnati Mighty Ducks has 956, D2: The Mighty Ducks has 7,685, D3: The Mighty Ducks has 5,898 and Anaheim Ducks has 31,831[[11]]. Given some of these meanings are unrelated I think its best to have no primary topic. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Priyanka Gandhi → Priyanka Gandhi Vadra – Almost all reliable news sources in India and abroad - and her own social media profiles use the name Priyanka Gandhi Vadra. She also uses it in her campaign material. Using her maiden name does not make sense for consistency in the article aswell. Rushtheeditor (talk) 23:56, 26 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink) The comments from there have been reproduced below for convenience. Regards, Aafi (talk) 12:35, 3 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Feeglgeef (talk) 22:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The disambiguation is unnecessary. Now, the new name could stay as a redirect, but the {{Distinguish}} template exists. Click on the template for details. Anyway, this is one of the rare cases where the unnecessary disambiguation is the article and the correct name is actually a redirect. That redirect is not technical. 143.179.74.165 (talk) 17:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Saskatchewan Progress Party → Saskatchewan Liberal Party – While the current name of the party is the Progress Party, it is not the most notable name this party had. Under its current name, the party has never had a single MLA and finished last in only election (2024) it ever ran in under its current name. A good precedent would be the Alberta Social Credit Party, its current name is the Pro-Life Alberta Political Association, but it is still known by its older, historic, more relevant name. Like the Alberta Socreds, the Saskatchewan Liberals were a prominent party under its historic name. They elected premiers and either led the government or led the opposition. An alternative proposal would be to WP:SPLIT the article into two articles: one for the Saskatchewan Liberal Party and one for the Saskatchewan Progress Party. This would be similar to how there are separate articles for the Yukon Progressive Conservative Party and the Yukon Party. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 21:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)— Relisting.Me-123567-Me (talk) 17:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Marghoobur Rahman → Maulana Marghoobur Rahman – Based on the available English sources, such as Milli Gazette, TwoCircles.net, Hindustan Times, and Radiance Weekly, the name "Maulana Marghoobur Rahman" is predominantly used, aligning with Wikipedia's COMMON NAME policy, which prioritizes the most widely recognized name in reliable sources. Additionally, a search on Google Books confirms that "Maulana Marghoobur Rahman" is extensively used across various books, further reinforcing its suitability for the English title. While the suffix "Bijnori" holds cultural significance in Urdu and is often used to denote his regional identity, it is not commonly found in English sources. Therefore, "Maulana Marghoobur Rahman" is the logical choice for the English Wikipedia title, with "Bijnori" appropriately mentioned within the article to provide context about his origins. If the article were in Urdu, "Marghoobur Rahman Bijnori" would be a more fitting choice. Khaatir (talk) 11:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Brand New Dance → Brand New Dance (album) – The Eminem song has almost five times as many page views per day as the Emmylou Harris album. As Eminem is a much wider known artist overall, I think it would make sense for his song to be the primary topic. At the very least, the Emmylou Harris album should not be the primary topic. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:12, 17 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.cyberdog958Talk06:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Joaquín → Joaquin – If all 42 bulleted entries listed on the Joaquín page were accented, then the main title header should likewise retain the accent mark. However, since 12 of those entries do not use an accent and, since on English Wikipedia, it is necessary to type "Joaquin" to access this page, Joaquín should redirect to Joaquin, rather than the other way around. It may be also noted that a similar page, listing bulleted points under the header, San Joaquin, does not use the accent mark. — Roman Spinner(talk • contribs) 02:07, 16 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.RachelTensions (talk) 04:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Typhoon Ewiniar (2006) → Typhoon Ewninar – Out of the three storms (2024, 2000, and 2006, this is the most powerful. (I'm going to exclude 2000, since it doesn't have a page). 2006 has more deaths, damages, and injuries than the 2024 version. The 2006 version affected five countries, while the 2024 version affected two countries. Since the 2006 version has more deaths, damages, injuries, and countries affected, it therefore has more coverage and popularity (and also historical impact). 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 00:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – TA3 (news channel) → TA3 (TV channel) – Bundling these together because of the shared title and country (Slovakia) and little else. (news channel) is a non-standard disambiguator, and the current channel is clearly the primary topic for the term. The earlier, short-lived Slovak TA3 should have a more descriptive title than name as other items have the name TA3. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 2024 Novi Sad protests → 2024 Serbian anti-corruption protests – Protest are not limited to just Novi Sad, and they are all across Serbia with more than 100000 protesters in Belgrade on 22 December and other cities in Serbia (Even some outside). Word "anti-corruption" is there to differentiate from environmental protests held in the same year and also because in (alleged) corruption is one of the main reasons for protest. No.cilepogača (talk) 21:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Thalassodrominae → Thalassodromidae – Basically undoing the previous move above, since supporters of the denomination Thalassodrominae have rejected its use in favor of the denomination Thalassodromidae in order to have consistency with other opposing studies that use Thalassodromidae. Here[18] is said study, by Pêgas and colleagues in 2023. Subsequent studies[19][20] that follow a tapejaromorph classification for this group, which would traditionally mean the use of Thalassodrominae, have also employed the denomination Thalassodromidae as well. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 19:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Bibliotheca (Pseudo-Apollodorus) → Bibliotheca (Apollodorus) – As far as I know, the author of the Bibliotheca is much more commonly referred to as just "Apollodorus". See, for instance, Google Scholar results (7060 vs 1330), though these shouldn't be taken as absolute (as some authors will often note "Pseudo-Apollodorus" and then use "Apollodorus" throughout, and, conversely, some results for "Pseudo-Apollodorus" seem to be counted under "Apollodorus"). For how he is named in relevant sources, see the following: * Greek mythology reference works: Gantz ("Apollodoros"), Hard ("Apollodorus"), Grimal ("Apollodorus"), Tripp ("Apollodorus"), Oxford Classical Dictionary ("Apollodorus" throughout), Fowler 2013 ("Apollodorus"), Smith ("Apollodorus" throughout) * Translations/editions: Frazer ("Apollodorus"), Smith and Trzaskoma ("Apollodorus"), Hard ("Apollodorus"), Simpson ("Apollodorus"), Papathomopoulos ("Apollodori"), Wagner ("Apollodori") This is obviously not an exhaustive survey, and counterexamples do exist (eg. this book, and a few articles listed on our page); also note that "Ps.-Apollodorus" is occasionally used. – Michael Aurel (talk) 04:27, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthroponymy/Standards → Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthroponomy/Style advice – To be consistent with the rest of the style-advice WP:PROJPAGE essays of topical wikiprojects. There may be a few other stragglers, but they should move to the same consistent naming pattern as well. PS: This isn't even an appropriate use of standard[s], since this page and what it outlines don't qualify under any definition applicable here. At most, this is page reflects the collective (and generally pretty sound but not authoritative) opinions of a small number of topic-devoted editors, and it needs careful review to make sure it actually complies with our WP:P&G that cover style and page-title matters (which most style PROJPAGEs do not until subjected to considerable revision). — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 02:20, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – The Diplomat → The Diplomat (magazine) – The news magazine entitled The Diplomat currently has the primary topic title for articles named "The Diplomat". However, since The Diplomat (American TV series)'s creation in April 2023, the article has received consistently and substantially more pageviews than all other "The Diplomat" articles combined. Over the last 18 months, The American TV series received 190,000 average monthly pageviews, while all the other "The Diplomat" articles combined received 32,000. Of course, this includes spikes of pageviews when the TV series was in the news because of a new season. But, even at its lowest, the American TV series still received 43,000 views while all other articles combined only received 19,000. Full pageview analysis WikiNav clickstream data also shows that 75% of the views on Diplomat (disambiguation) clicked in from The Diplomat (magazine), and 82% of outgoing clicks from Diplomat (disambiguation) were headed to The Diplomat (American TV series). WikiNav analysis I am proposing that The Diplomat (American TV series) is now the primary topic per the criteria at WP:PT1. At the very least, this shows that the news magazine entitled The Diplomat is no longer the primary topic and should be moved; whether or not the American TV series is now the primary is up for debate. RachelTensions (talk) 16:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Cabinet of Germany → Federal Government of Germany – "Federal Government of Germany" is the natural, precise, concise and above all consistent title. On the other hand, "Cabinet of Germany" is not commonly recognizable and not a title that readers are likely to look or search for if they wanted to find the German government.[6][7] Furthermore, the current title is colloquial and legally (see Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany, sixth section, "VI. The Federal Government") and technically incorrect. The title also differs from all other search engine results on this topic and the official website itself[8].
(Discuss) – Lee Soo-jin → Lee Soo-jin (politician, proportional representation constituency) – Proposing the following moves to try to untangle some ambiguity: Currently there are two politicians with the same name, Lee Su-jin (politician) and Lee Soo-jin. Both are the same name in Korean (이수진). Neither politician is the primary topic; they both have very close to the same amount of average monthly pageviews over the last 12 months. Pageview stats for all Lee Su-jin/Soo-jin articles show large amounts of overlap so WP:NOPRIMARY here: pageview stats Having some trouble coming up with proper disambiguators for the two politicians. Both have the same name, same birth year, same nationality, both are members of the Democratic Party, both served in the National Assembly, and both began serving in the National Assembly beginning in 2020. Some options: Option 1: * Lee Soo-jin represented the Proportional representation constituency, while Lee Su-jin (politician) represented a constituency in Seoul, so one option would be to disambiguate by constituency: Option 2: * Lee Soo-jin was a labor activist prior to her election in 2020, and Lee Su-jin (politician) was a judge, so another option would be to disambiguate by prior notability: Option 3: * Final option would be to disambiguate by birth month, though this assumes the reader already knows their birth month which is unlikely to be the case, but this might be the cleanest way: Also open to any other suggestions from the community for better ways to disambiguate. Whichever option we end up with, after this move, Lee Soo-jin should be redirected to the disambiguation page at Lee Su-jin. And, if you're replying in support, please state which of the three options you're supporting (if any), to make it easier on the closer. Thank you! RachelTensions (talk) 15:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jamuna Railway Bridge" is the commonly used name. During Sheikh Hasina's regime, she named the bridge after her father controversially. However, the name has now been officially changed. Therefore, the article should be renamed Jamuna Railway Bridge as soon as possible.
(Discuss) – Matthew Shepard → Murder of Matthew Shepard – Per WP:DEATHS and WP:ONEEVENT. This is going to be controversial but still it should be done. He has no notability besides his murder. He became famous because he died and before that he was a complete unknown. People might say he has been notable in other things but that is only a consequence of being murdered. People should leave their emotional bias behind and look at the facts. Another option is to split an article called "Murder of Matthew Shepard” about the death itself while the notability and legacy will remain in the main article. Theparties (talk) 08:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Al-Qadir Trust reference case → 190 million pound case – WP:COMMONNAME for this case is "190 million pound case", overwhelming majority of sources use this term compared to the current title. Google Trends also shows higher usage for the proposed title, current title does non even register. If we search Google News and sort them by date, current title does not show up in a single news report while proposed title was featured in a news report published few hours ago. Proposed title might not seem very attractive to some folks but we do not go by the attractiveness of the title on Wikipedia but by what reliable sources prefer to use. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Habtamu Ayalew Teshome → Habtamu Ayalew – In the Ethiopian naming system, Habtamu is a subject name, Ayalew is a surname and Teshome is a grandfather's name. So the grandfather name is no longer identified with the subject of the article as soon as there is another identical article in Wikipedia named "Habtamu Ayalew". A previous move to Habtamu Ayalew has been reverted due to potential page vandalism and I resorted requesting move here. AsteriodX (talk) 12:04, 6 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping>14:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Lingayatism → Lingayat Sect – There were prior attempts to move the page, but not with proper citations and references and hence were rejected. I propose the name change of Page to "Lingayat Sect" from "Lingayatism" once again. Lingayat is a sect not a religion. Every source mentions it as a sect and a community. [1][2][3][4][5] Thank You!
(Discuss) – Texture (chemistry) → Crystallographic texture – The actual name does not make any sense as what is reported in the page is "Crystallographic texture". It is not a chemical property as who requested the previous move argued. Clearly who did it does not know at all the field and his comments should be disregarded completely. There was another comment complaining with it but it was disregarded even if it was correct. I work in this field, I wrote plenty of articles, chapters on the subject and did contribute to the page years ago and I know or did collaborate with most of the authors in the references. The title before the chemistry addition was also not proper because erroneously someone did change the original "crystallographic texture" into crystalline texture (not exactly the same meaning), but it was way better than Texture (chemistry). Chemistry and physical chemistry have nothing to do with crystallographic texture. The comment on amorphous materials is wrong and does not make any sense. We study the texture of crystalline materials, hence not amorphous. It is called then crystallographic texture to distinguish it from other texture types. The fact that some materials are amorphous and thus they don't have a crystallographic texture (this can be debated, we simply cannot measure it if present) cannot take us to the conclusion that texture is not a material science subject (I am a materials scientist BTW). The title change did get unnoticed by the experts in the field up to now. A change to revert it to the original one, Crystallographic texture, or Texture (crystallographic), must be made. 2001:B07:5D38:CC8F:DC5E:ACE:B8F2:3A96 (talk) 10:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Bærum mosque shooting → 2019 Bærum murder and mosque shooting – Pursuant to the discussion above, which no one responded to: I have been wanting to improve this article for two years, since it is entirely stuck in the breaking news aftermath of when it happened instead of the later coverage, but I am frustrated by its scope, which makes it difficult to reflect what non-breaking news sources cover about this case. While all of the breaking coverage focuses on the mosque shooting, later coverage tends to focus both on Ihle-Hansen's murder (see the books, the docuseries, later news coverage) with about equal weight to the mosque attack. This is a problem because there was a separate motive for the killing of his sister, the background for what lead up to this event heavily involves her, and the more severe sentence Manshaus received was for murdering Ihle-Hansen, not for the failed mosque shooting. This is very close to what the Norwegian wikipedia titles its article on this case. I would title it closer to what the books and documentaries do, but they are usually titled after Manshaus's name. I am open to other suggestions as I know this isn't perfect but I do feel that any title for this article needs to not strictly focus it on the mosque event. The year is optional, but according to WP:NCE if an event is not broadly known it should include the year. This event is not widely known outside of Norway, but if people feel otherwise it could be titled Bærum murder and mosque shooting. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Leptospermum scoparium → Mānuka – Per WP:NCFLORA, WP:COMMONNAME and WP:RECOGNISABILITY. WP:NCFLORA states that we should follow usage in reliable sources, and that exceptions to the use of scientific names can be made when a plant has an agricultural, horticultural, economic or cultural role or use that makes it more prominent in some other field than in botany. Mānuka has a massive cultural significance in New Zealand (particularly for Māori) and is known for its honey worldwide. Reliable sources overwhelmingly favour the name Mānuka over the scientific name, with there being three times as many academic results for a search of Mānuka (with or without the macron) compared to the scientific name. Ngrams also show overwhelming preference for Manuka over the scientific name. The use of the macron is proposed for consistency with other conventions for NZ-based articles, where macrons are used when the common name is of Māori origin and correct orthography calls for them. Turnagra (talk) 09:10, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Hannaford Brothers Company → ? – Move to either "Hannaford" or "Hannaford (supermarket)". The store seems to operate under the WP:COMMONNAME of "Hannaford", with the "Brothers Company" part not seeing wide use. It also seems to be by far the most common item of the name "Hannaford", so there is an argument that it should be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (indeed, it's the only thing on the Hannaford dab page that has the exact name "Hannaford"; all the others are WP:PTM). At the least, the "Brothers Company" part needs to go. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?)09:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Discovery Channel (Canadian TV channel) → Discovery Channel (1994 Canadian TV channel) – On 1 January 2025, this will no longer be the Canadian Discovery Channel, instead, a new different channel will be stood up and become the Canadian Discovery, since the license for "Discovery" group was transferred to a different licensee, and BellGlobeMedia will lose the right to the name (hence it being replaced by USA Network Canada, with a different programming of content, Discovery shows moving to the new Discovery.) This current particular network was stood up on 31 December 1994. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 65.92.246.77 (talk) 21:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~🌀Ampil「💬 / 📝」08:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – LANCO (band) → LANCO – Per the precedent of SHeDAISY, k.d. lang, CCH Pounder, JCPenney, and other articles, non-standard case may be used if there is overwhelming majority to do so. Reputable sources such as AllMusic, People, and Billboard render the name in all-caps, and I found few to no sources referring to the band as just "Lanco". Of the inbound links, page hits, and non-wikipedia search results, there is almost no traffic for LANCO regarding its use in reference to a defunct airline. By comparison, the band's article has a much larger inbound link and view count. In short, it seems as if anyone looking for LANCO in all-caps is without question looking for a currently active band, not a short lived defunct airline. And the all-caps spelling seems to be overwhelmingly preferred. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?)05:22, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Trialeti–Vanadzor culture → Trialeti culture – The page was created under the name "Trialeti culture" back in 2007 and was moved under its current name without a discussion [32] and under the pretext that that is how this culture is referred to "in academic and archaeological sources" and that other archeological cultures of the Caucasus (Shulaveri-Shomu culture, Kura-Araxes culture, etc.) are equally referred to via double names. The move was undone [33] but reinstated with more or less the same argumentation [34]. Meanwhile, a simple search on Google Scholar reveals 277 results for "Trialeti culture" and 32 results for "Trialeti-Vanadzor culture". The argument about the prevalence of double names elsewhere falls under WP:OTHERSTUFF. Parishan (talk) 01:40, 14 December 2024 (UTC). — Relisting.Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia02:12, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Discuss) – Mac Gargan → Scorpion (Mac Gargan) – "Mac Gargan" should be renamed to "Scorpion (Marvel Comics)" to reflect his more iconic and widely recognized identity, consistent with naming conventions for other Marvel characters (ex. Spider-Man, which exclusively talks about Peter Parker, despite other incarnations) ModlordD (talk) 17:31, 27 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Raladic (talk) 17:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping>13:41, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer → Carl Switzer – Carl Switzer follows the standard naming convention and is unambiguous. Furthermore, it is the more WP:COMMONNAME[35] and (not a policy reason but still) it feels insulting to reduce a person to one role, even if it is by far their most famous one. We wouldn't move Mark Hamill to Mark "Luke Skywalker" Hammill. Fram (talk) 08:12, 12 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping>13:36, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Gascon dialect → Gascon (language variety) – The precise classifcation of Gascon is controversial. While most scholars consider it to be a dialect of Occitan, Posner and Sala note that it is less comprehensible than Catalan (which is typically classified separately from Occitan) to other southern Occitan speakers. Moreover, Gascon has a standardized variety, Aranese, with official status in the Val d'Aran region of Catalonia, which differs from the literary standard of Occitan. Kristol 2023 asserts that Gascon was "already considered a specific language in the Middle Ages," and Carles and Glessgen 2024 refer to Occitan and Gascon as "two languages." As the terms "language" and "dialect" are ambiguous and somewhat subjective, linguists tend to circumvent extralinguistic polemics by using the term "language variety" to refer to a linguistic system. By characterizing Gascon as a "dialect," the current title appears to clash with Wikipedia's policy of neutrality by favouring a traditional but contested view. The term "language variety" would be a more useful characterization, as it would avoid the use of the ambiguous term "dialect," which tends to evoke social, historical, and political considerations rather than strictly linguistic ones. Conocephalus (talk) 15:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.cyberdog958Talk 18:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Bobby Cohn (talk) 21:14, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 2024 Al-Mustariha massacre → 2024 Turkish airstrikes in Syria – Consistency. This article should be named like 2024 Homs airstrikes or April 2017 Turkish airstrikes in Syria and Iraq. Because these air strikes are organised for enemy sides of the perpetrator's and some civillians killed in those air strikes. This title means that Turkey only carries out air strike to massacre innocent civilians. However, this airstrike is only one of 191 airstrikes against the SDF-YPG, therefore we cannot seperate this air strike from other 190 air strikes. All of them are carried out within 2024. The content also mentions the death toll from other airstrikes. Also these airstrikes belongs to Hasakah province, Raqqa province and rural Aleppo. This title mentions 11 civilians in Raqqa province but how about other 6 civillian deaths in Hasakah province? If you look at death toll, military personnels also killed besides civillians and this means that Turkish Air Force didn't target civillians especially. Also it's ridiculous to target little amount of civillians in a village. If Turkish Air Force want to kill civillians, bombing big city centers is more efficient way like Israel did in Gaza Strip. Therefore that title is biased and we cannot named this event as a massacre just for killed civillians because more military personnels killed in these air strikes. Seondly, wikipedia there's a village named Mustariha and it's located at Idlib. However news says it's a village in the suburbs of Ain Issa. I cannot find location of the village. It's very interesting. All in all, this article should be moved to "2024 Turkish airstrikes in Syria" However we can use northern Syria but I'm not sure about geographic naming. Note: If the title I propose is appropriate, the content should be revised accordingly, because it gives the impression that the attack was made specifically for this village and targeted especially civillians in this village.--Sabri76'talk 17:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping>15:10, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – First London → First London (1997) – It may be very early days, but First have just announced they are returning to London operations with the acquisition of RATP Dev's London operations (incorporating Dev Transit London, London United and London Sovereign).[1] Given the scope of the original First operation before it was broken up in 2013, reviving this article for the new operation might be a bridge too far and bound to cause some confusion. As such, unless anyone has a better name proposal for the article, I propose the above move with the option for First London (2025) to incorporate the ex-RATP operations. Hullian111 (talk) 08:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC) Hullian111 (talk) 08:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia02:58, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Template:NF → Template:NFLD – Most Canadian provinces have just one flag template named with the province's two-letter postal abbreviation as the template name; this one is a special case because the province's name was changed from just "Newfoundland" to Newfoundland and Labrador in 2001, necessitating separate "NF" and "NL" templates because the province name next to the (same) flag needs to be two different things based on whether it's a pre-2001 or post-2001 context. However, because the Spanish Wikipedia uses the template name "NF" as its basic "formatting the vital statistics of people on biographical articles" (birth year, death year, defaultsort name, etc.) template, there ends up being a constant need to monitor this template for incorrect "vital stats" uses on articles, drafts and user sandbox pages that have been translated or just copy-pasted over from Spanish. So because of that extenuating circumstance, I believe that there's a substantive case for treating this template as a special case that varies from the titles of its other provincial siblings to avoid that problem — and since "NF" is an old, no longer used postal abbreviation rather than the current one, the variant won't be nearly as difficult to justify as it would have been if the conflict were affecting "NL". Accordingly, I propose that this template use the province's original postal abbreviation "NFLD" instead of the two-letter transitional form "NF", with all of its (thankfully not that many) uses updated to the new name, and "NF" not retained as a redirect so that we stop having to deal with the flag of Newfoundland being wrongly placed at the bottom of Spanish and Mexican and Latin American biographies. Alternatively, if there's a way that "NL" could be coded to enable a "Newfoundland and Labrador" vs. "Newfoundland" switch, we could just add that and move all the NF uses to NL-with-switch, but I wouldn't know how to do that (or even if it's possible), although it might even be a better solution than moving this if it is possible. Bearcat (talk) 18:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Gwon Yul → Gwon Yul (general) – Seems to be a conflict between the two WP:PRIMARYTOPIC criteria. Gwon Yul currently does not meet the criteria for primary topic by usage WP:PT1: of the three ambiguous "Kwon Yul" articles, the army general is last in pageviews. Over the last year, the other two Kwon Yul articles have received an average monthly pageviews of around 15,000, while the army general has received only 1400. [39] However, by WP:PT2 (long term significance), the army general is obviously the primary topic. Given the conflicting criteria, and what seems to be a very large pageview disparity between the army general and the other Kwon Yul articles (army general receiving 10x less traffic), I thought it'd be appropriate to open a discussion to see if the army general is indeed the primary topic or if there is WP:NOPRIMARY here. A move here would also involve retargeting the redirect left at Gwon Yul to Kwon Yul (which is the same name, 권율, just romanized slightly differently) RachelTensions (talk) 13:05, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Expectation of privacy (United States) → Reasonable expectation of privacy – Adjusted proposal per the outcome of the one above. This legal doctrine originated with the Katz ruling in 1967 and subsequent cases using that as a precedent have adopted the more precise phrasing "reasonable expectation of privacy". Also, the article's text as developed over the years focuses on the precise legal doctrine rather than a vague value. Note that this particular proposal would require a round-robin move due to an old mistargeted redirect, which I have the permissions to do. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Raladic (talk) 23:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia02:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Unknown Archon → ? – This "Unknown Archon" sounds like this is a proper name, but it's apparently not, this is just uppercase added to a translation of one of the general descriptions used in historiography about this story. The article is a bit of a mess - most of it is the lead section that doesn't actually summarize the body; half the body is a verbatim copy from a 20th-century translation of a 10th-century primary source, and then there's a few paragraphs which kind of say yeah none of this stuff in the lead is necessarily true true. So I don't really know if there's a good name for this topic, or if this small amount of context has potential - should it just be merged into a more general article? Joy (talk) 07:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Raladic (talk) 03:23, 1 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Feeglgeef (talk) 02:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Larries → Larry Stylinson – Since it's been almost two and a half years since the no consensus close of the previous move request, I thought it might be time to bring this discussion back up again. A good article title is consistent, and all the conspiracy theory articles that I have examined (see Category:Conspiracy theories) use the title of the theory, not the believers. For example, there is no anti-vaxxer article; there is only a Anti-vaccine activism article. There is no Flat-earther article; there is only a Modern flat Earth beliefs article. Other ships (see Category:Slash fiction) also use the name of the ship, not the fandom, albeit this is a unique topic in that it is about real people. In the last discussion, I heard that this article is somehow different in that the scholarship is more about the believers than the theory, but that isn't exactly true. For one, there is also scholarship documenting the actual theory. But also, the psychology of the believers is also central to other conspiracy theory articles (e.g. Modern flat Earth beliefs § Sociological explanations for counterfactual beliefs), which all still use the name of the theory. Additionally, "Larry Stylinson" is certainly more precise. "Larries" could potentially refer to multiple "Larry"s or "Larrie"s, or, as the ngram viewer shows, industrial/mining equipment. Although one could argue that the ship is the more common interpretation, it certainly hasn't been historically (and we aim to avoid WP:RECENTISM), and changing the title to "Larry Stylinson" would remove all possible ambiguity. BappleBusiness[talk] 22:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping>15:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Białystok) → Białystok Municipal Stadium – I am submitting this request to revert the article title of the stadium in Białystok to its previous title, Białystok Municipal Stadium in light of recent actions by the user FromCzech. The move to the Polish-language title Stadion Miejski (Białystok) was made unilaterally and appears inconsistent with Wikipedia's guidelines, specifically WP:UE. This guideline encourages the use of English translations where appropriate to maintain accessibility for the global readership. FromCzech has argued for the name change without prior discussion, potentially as a reaction to a naming debate on Lokotrans Aréna that I initiated. This recent move does not reflect a consensus, and it also disrupts the established consistency within the "Football venues in Poland" category, where nearly all stadium names are translated into English. Notable examples include Father Władysław Augustynek Stadium, Gdynia Municipal Stadium, Kielce Municipal Stadium, and Raków Municipal Stadium. I urge that the title "Białystok Municipal Stadium" be restored to uphold Wikipedia’s principles of consistency and transparency, while also preventing this matter from being affected by personal disputes or editing motivated by anything other than Wikipedia's editorial standards. Paradygmaty (talk) 21:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 11:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Keiki-dō → Keiki Province – I think "Provinces" may be more appropriate, but still not sure. I moved all the other Korea prefecture pages from "-dō" to " Prefecture" following the category name, but @robertsky pointed out " Province" may be more appropriate. "Prefecture" has kind of a loose definition, per Prefecture and Prefectures of Japan. The nature of prefectures in various countries differs; it's not really clear to me how these differ from provinces, esp given that colonial Korea was governed differently from Japan. Both "prefecture" and "province" seem to be variously attested to for Korean provinces (as well as the use of transliterations of Korean names for Korean places during the colonial period). English terminology for Korean history is notoriously inconsistent. Reading Prefectures of Japan, it seems like "道" is also used for prefectures, but that doesn't necessarily guarantee that it would extend to Korea. Provinces of Japan seems to suggest that Japan itself adopted the prefecture system in the late 19th century, but that doesn't necessarily cover Korea. However, recent RS on the colonial period seem to use "province" for this period (although these all seem to write from Korea-centric perspectives; using Korean-language terms for concepts during the colonial period). * [41] * [42] * [43] * [44] Edit: more sources (see below for my analysis of the situation) * [45] * [46] * [47] * [48] *[49] * [50] (this book uses Korean names for concepts that existed before the colonial period, including the provinces, and Japanese names for everything created during) In short, I think there's a WP:COMMONNAME argument to use "Province" instead of "Prefecture". Either of the two is certainly better than the previous "-dō". seefooddiet (talk) 05:25, 17 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia07:25, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]