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Hi, I need help understanding why you rejected my page when I have written it from a neutral point of view. Also, the reference links are active and from well-known sources. What else do you need? Could you please assist me in making this page live? I am open to adding or removing any content you suggest.

Regards, Bisen Vikas Ombisen18 (talk) 13:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The page is clearly an advertisement and it appears here that your goal is promotional not educational. Wikipedia is encyclopedic entries, not promotional pieces. See WP:PROMO.

There is not enough coverage that leads me to believe NLB Services is notable enough for a Wikipedia page. See WP:GNG.

The fact that you are being paid to create this page and are prepared to do whatever it takes to get the page published is contrary to what Wikipedia is. I would recommend you do not resubmit the page for review. However, if you do, I will not review it a second time. Ktkvtsh (talk) 14:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited and solved the problem you mentioned 103.136.159.100 (talk) 18:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great. I see you have made changes to Draft:S.M. Jahid Hasan and resubmitted the draft. Another user will review it. Ktkvtsh (talk) 18:38, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank yo so mach Madian.980087 (talk) 19:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Ktkvtsh (talk) 19:20, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I spent a lot of time and effort writing an article for Wikipedia and you summarily rejected it without giving me ability to remediate your rejection.

I would like to involve mediation or arbitration. How can I appeal for a mediator. Bushido77 (talk) 21:49, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bushido77 I stand by my decision to reject the page. No other religions have a Wikipedia page dedicated to their form of martial arts. It is more of an WP:ESSAY and is not suitable for the Wikipedia main space.

I recommend that you work on adding a section on the page Martial arts or List of martial arts concerning your topic. Or you could join WikiProject Martial arts and bring it up there to see how you can help.

If you disagree with doing any of this, please bring up this issue at the help desk and make sure to ping me so that I may be part of the conversation. Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I definitely disagree with your decision. I am new to Wikipedia and am becoming disheartened with the process. It seems that people make an arbitrary decision and that is final.

There are many Wikipedia pages about different types and styles of martial arts. Taekwondo for example has its own page. Yet that is an umbrella for many different taekwondo systems.

Is there no mediation process?

I find it very difficult to believe that one person can unilaterally reject valid Wikipedia information with no dispute process.

If you are correct, why did the first reviewer not tell me the same thing? They indicated to rewrite it in a more encyclopedic manner. I spent at least a month compiling and writing data, only to have you unilaterally reject it.

There must be a mediation or arbitration process.

By the way, I have no idea of how to ping you.

I will look around and try to figure out what mediation steps are available. Thanks. Bushido77 (talk) 22:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can always submit the draft again. Simply place the draft template on your article, save it, and press submit. Then another reviewer will look at the page. Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:35, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. What is the "draft template"? And how do I put it on the article? Like I said, I am new to Wikipedia and was excited about contributing, but it is getting cumbersome and tedious. I don't mind working on improving articles, but a unilateral rejection with no recourse is very discouraging. Bushido77 (talk) 22:41, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copy this: {{AfC submission}}

and paste it at the top of your draft. Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:46, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Bushido77 (talk) 22:48, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added that and it did not return to a submission. Do I need to "MOVE" it? I will try that. Bushido77 (talk) 22:52, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it for you. You accidentally placed it inside of another template. Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:53, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I tried something else. Now it is probably broken again.  :( Bushido77 (talk) 23:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It still did not work. I tried to do what you said... but no luck.  :( Bushido77 (talk) 23:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the template and instead paste the following text at the very top of the page: {{subst:submit}} Ktkvtsh (talk) 23:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ktkvtsh -- While I don't think this draft is headed for mainspace any time soon, it is hard to see how "More information is available here" meets the G11 criterion. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 05:50, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. Thanks. Ktkvtsh (talk) 05:52, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. After commenting on the Robert Heisner AfD, I went back in the history on Draft:Christian Martial Arts. I draftified it on September 24 as part of new page review (diff), so per WP:DRAFTOBJECT it should not have been draftified a second time without first being brought to AfD. Not sure if you want to self-revert but flagging for your awareness. (I agree with you that it's not remotely appropriate for mainspace and would vote to delete if it was brought to AfD.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:52, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. Just to clarify, you said I should go in and revert its move to draft space? Wouldn't that place it back in main space? Ktkvtsh (talk) 21:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's the idea when someone objects to draftification (and returning a draft to mainspace is a form of objection). It would of course be immediately eligible for AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:01, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I will do this now. Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971  Done will you nominate for AfD? Ktkvtsh (talk) 22:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thank you! Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian Martial Arts. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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