Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Catholic Church in the United States (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. bibliomaniac 1 5 02:14, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

American Catholic Church in the United States

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Procedural nomination on behalf of TimOliv who states: "This article was discussed in 2012. Since then, there are still no supporting sources to indicate that this particular church is notable according to Wikipedia standards. There were no sources then. They had nearly a decade to become notable. They have not. This is a very small group of 12-13 clergy members and, by all accounts, very few if any non-ordained clergy beyond this. There is simply no reason that this should be a standalone article and not a subset of some other independent catholic article." b uidhe 05:29, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:43, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:43, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Maryland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:43, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Denominations are generally notable, in part because they often feature in the Handbook of Denominations in the United States and similar publications. The ACCUS is no exception. St Anselm (talk) 16:07, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And here is a second source. St Anselm (talk) 16:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The Texas Monthly article isn't terrible, but the handbook notes they conduct primary research. News coverage on Newspapers.com is scant, in part because "American Catholic Church" is already a separate denomination - narrowed down I only get 35 hits, the best of which are about a Catholic priest who tried to defect. It would fail WP:NCORP but just might scrape by on WP:GNG. Not sure what standard to use here, so just commenting, but if nothing changes with regards to the available sources I lean delete. SportingFlyer T·C 19:46, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
comment - it's interesting that there are books out there that are based on "high quality content by Wikipedia articles" [1] guys we're famous !Grmike (talk) 22:19, 1 May 2020 (UTC)grmike[reply]
Keep: As User:StAnselm pointed out, there are several reliable sources that discuss the American Catholic Church in the United States. The subject thus satisfies WP:N and WP:RS. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 05:53, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom. It was small 8 years ago and it's still small. There are thousands of Christian denominations. being one doesn't guarantee notability.Grmike (talk) 13:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)grmike[reply]
Keep as has reliable sources coverage as per the comments of St Anselm, also WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 17:37, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Still doesn't seem notable. Juno (talk) 23:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.