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Indonesia

2029 Indonesian presidential election

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Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Cited source does not even mention the 2029 election. Possibly redirect to Elections in Indonesia as an ATD. CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Indonesia. CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not too soon, for example there is an article about 2030 United States Senate elections.

Cited sources do mention the next presidential election will be held in 2029, the election has been officially mentioned too in Constitutional Court of Indonesia decision on January 2025. Everywiki (talk) 10:43, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Everywiki: That article you're comparing this to is adequately sourced, whereas this article only has one source where the topic is barely mentioned (which is the reason why it is considered "too soon"). CycloneYoris ^talk! 20:25, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Elections in Indonesia per Everywiki, It's not WP:TOOSOON. The "potential candidate" section feels like a WP:OR and WP:CRYSTALBALLy. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 14:56, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Miminity: TOOSOON applies because there isn't sufficient coverage on the topic in question, which is the case when you search for "2029 Indonesian election". CycloneYoris ^talk! 20:28, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:25, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Elections in Indonesia It is TOOSOON because there is no sourced information in the article specific to the 2029 election. If we had opinion polls or confirmed candidates then I would be in favour of keeping. However, the candidate list is entirely unsourced. Number 5 7 01:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It's standard practice to create articles for the next election as soon as the current election is over, even if the date is variable/not known e.g. Next United Kingdom general election, Next Spanish general election. The issue with the date can be easily resolved by renaming the article Next Indonesian presidential election and removing any reference to the date in the article. Similarly, any other unsourced content such as potential candidates can be removed or, here's a novel idea, editors can try to find sources. Disappointed to see an election from a developing country, the third largest democracy in the world, where more than 200 million people will be eligible to vote, being nominated for deletion when we have an election from a developed nation where just 20,000 people were eligible to vote making it to the front page. Obi2canibe (talk) 11:38, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some reliable sources that say that the presidential election will be held in 2029 and discuss potential candidates: Straits Times, Straits Times, Reuters, Channel News Asia, Antara, Antara, The Star. Obi2canibe (talk) 11:57, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Hatfull

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Fails WP:GNG. Uhooep (talk) 23:34, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bilateral relations, Indonesia, United Kingdom, and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:21, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a mere 5 google news hits that are not SIGCOV to meet WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 09:47, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jens Raven

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This feels like a WP:TOOSOON situation. There is some stuff out there on the player—nothing that clearly reaches WP:SIGCOV, but maybe enough—but I worry that this is a case of WP:BLP1E. Anwegmann (talk) 17:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, Indonesia, and Netherlands. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:14, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 18:28, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think there are enough decent sources (including CNN) which show notability. Giant Snowman 18:31, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per GiantSnowman. It seems ready for mainspace, but in any case it is also possible to draftify. Svartner (talk) 04:44, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amir Ahnaf

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WP:BLP of an actor and model, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing inclusion criteria for actors or models. As always, actors and models are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass certain specific markers of achievement supported by reliable source coverage -- but the attempted notability claim here is staked entirely on supporting or bit parts in films that don't even have Wikipedia articles about the films, and the article is sourced entirely to short blurbs and public relations fluff rather than substantive WP:GNG-worthy coverage.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 15:45, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Malaysia. Bearcat (talk) 15:45, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Significant roles (including various lead roles) in series and films (that have a Wikipedia page in Indonesian/Malay) and received coverage in those languages and, to a lesser extent, in English. The page needs expansion

The productions include: Syurga Itu Bukan Mudah (2023); Kahar: Kapla High Council (2024); Scammer Geng Marhaban (2023); Gamers Mangkuk (2023).) Coverage in English includes: https://sea.ign.com/entertainment/208982/news/explores-the-lives-of-amateur-esports-players-in-new-comedy-series-gamers-mangkuk ;https://www.cinema.com.my/articles/news_details.aspx?search=2025.n_kaharheadtoastrofirst_68231 https://thesun.my/style-life/prequel-that-stands-on-its-own-HG13375222 https://thesun.my/style-life/fight-back-to-school-EL10826442

A lot of interviews have introductions that allow to verify the roles and their significance (as well as the notability of the productions). https://www.nst.com.my/lifestyle/groove/2024/10/1124348/showbiz-thats-not-my-photo-why-am-i-being-blamed-–-amir-ahnaf for example or "people/fashion" coverage allowing the same, such as https://www.mens-folio.com/style/boys-will-be-boys-smir-ahnaf-aedy-ashraf-sky-iskandar-superdry/ https://hype.my/2023/324380/actor-amir-ahnaf-on-his-darkest-moment-feeling-empty-after-projek-high-council-success/

A lot more exists in English and in other languages. -Mushy Yank. 00:05, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This article has significantly changed since its AfD nomination. -Mushy Yank. 00:20, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Television, Fashion, and Indonesia. -Mushy Yank. 00:21, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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