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Dear @Cabrils, I've revised the Alex Kentsis draft page and included specific details on the revision in its Talk page.

Draft talk:Alex Kentsis#Revision to academic biography

Thanks for your help.

Neenotchka (talk) 15:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my comments on the Draft and Draft Talk page. Cabrils (talk) 00:31, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see expanded explanation on the Draft Talk page. Thanks. Neenotchka (talk) 14:03, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my comments on the Draft's Talk page, thank you. Cabrils (talk) 00:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see additional responses on the Draft's Talk Page. Appreciate your help in validating COI box, thank you. Neenotchka (talk) 12:41, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my comments on the Draft's Talk page, thank you. Cabrils (talk) 21:57, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Neenotchka, well done, thanks for your patience developing the draft. Page now accepted. Cabrils (talk) 22:45, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback. I updated the citations using the automatic citation for most of them. Hopefully they fit the correct style now.

I also added 2 sources that support the notability. I added a topic on the drafts talk page identifying the 3 best sources to support notability as you suggested.

You also mentioned it reads like a cv. I have been following the articles on Paterson PD and thought it was an interesting topic. I used ChatGPT to help me find sources and draft an initial body which i then edited. Is there anything specific that needs to be revised? Most of the statements/sentiment were revised from the public articles that i used as source material.

Thanks again for your time to review. This is my first Wikipedia article and it is a learning experience. NYYanks01 (talk) 15:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NYYanks01, thanks for the ping. That all sounds very progressive. I'll try to look at the revisions shortly.

In the meantime, I highly recommend you create at User Page (see WP:UP), which will be much more efficient for communicating, and will be helpful if you need to declare a conflict of interest: please see, and address, the WP:COI inquiry I made in my comment on the draft.

Thanks Cabrils (talk) 22:52, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening,

I just wanted to check back on this. I create a User Page and Talk Page. I don’t have a conflict so im not sure how to address it. I was under the impression that i have to affirmatively disclose a conflict of interest. Where do i document or affirmatively state that i have no conflict? NYYanks01 (talk) 03:59, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @NYYanks01,

If you don't have a conflict of interest, it would be helpful for you to state that on the Talk Page of the Draft, so other reviewers can see that. I am a little surprised though, that given this is the first page you have created, you have chosen a curious subject, if you are not being paid and do not know them.

I will have a look at the revised draft. Cabrils (talk) 07:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide WP:THREE as requested on the Draft's Talk Page. Cabrils (talk) 07:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cabrils, thank you for your assistance, I think the page now meets WP:ANYBIO criteria #3, because i added additional sourced and have edited the article and removed the infobox as well (as advised by jmcgnh from the real-time chat. Hope you can take a second look and review. Thank you so much! 112.204.160.39 (talk) 06:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cabrils, i created my account and now uses this username just as you advised. I also included the draft within the scope of WikiProject YouTube (see talk page) as i have learned that it is dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to YouTube and its personalities. I hope this helps us with this article. Thank you so much! RavenFireblade (talk) 19:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @RavenFireblade,

Thanks for the ping.

1. I see you have declared a conflict of interest on your Talk page (good work creating a User Page etc). What is the nature of your conflict? Are you Jack Logan? Are you being paid etc?

2. As previously requested, it would help our volunteer reviewers by identifying, on the draft's talk page, the WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of the subject.

Thanks. Cabrils (talk) 01:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cabrils, i am a follower and a friend to him. NO i am not being paid to do this. I just learned that there are Filipino vloggers here in Wikipedia so i maybe i should try. Can you help me reassess the article again?. RavenFireblade (talk) 01:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As previously requested, it would help our volunteer reviewers by identifying, on the draft's talk page, the WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of the subject.

And also, as previously requested, it would also be helpful if you could please identify with specificity, exactly which criteria you believe the page meets (eg "I think the page now meets WP:ANYBIO criteria #3, because XXXXX").

Thanks. Cabrils (talk) 01:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the page now meets WP:ANYBIO criteria #1 and #2 because the person has been nominated for such a significant award or honor, and the person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field; (internet culture in the Philippines) RavenFireblade (talk) 02:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As requested, please post any comments onto the draft's Talk page so they are more easily accessible to other reviewers:

1. As requested, it would help our volunteer reviewers by identifying, on the draft's talk page, the WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of the subject.

2. And also, as previously requested, it would also be helpful if you could please identify with specificity, exactly which criteria you believe the page meets (eg "I think the page now meets WP:ANYBIO criteria #3, because XXXXX").

3. Please copy from above and paste your clarification regarding the nature of your conflict of interest.

Thanks Cabrils (talk) 02:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cabrils, i have entered the clarification in the draft's talk page. Hope you can find it and reasses. I also submitted the draft for review. Thank you! RavenFireblade (talk) 18:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've declined the re-submission because you have not substantially amended the draft as required. Please see my comments on the Draft page. Cabrils (talk) 22:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reviewing my article. Could you please let me know what I should do for this article to be published? I see there is a few issues with the pictures and references- however this article is on my grandmother and besides primary source knowledge and articles published in Italy on magazines at the time of which I have first physical copies, there are not other resources which are available online. As she has passed away recently and I think she is an important figure as the first female Iranian filmmaker who started working in a male dominated industry and time, as well as an activist against a regime that eventually exiled her for her journalism work, her story should be profiled on Wikipedia to inspire women in specific and people in general. This is my first Wikipedia article, therefore thank you for your support in getting this complete ! 62.19.186.17 (talk) 18:19, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping.

That's a great initiative to draft a page for your grandmother, however for pages to be published on Wikipedia they must meet certain criteria, all of which I explain in my comments on the draft. Currently the page does meet the necessary criteria (as I explain on the draft), includung notability, reliable sources and conflict of interest. It's clear you are new here so while I admire your efforts, I do think you need to spend some time learning what is required and again encourage you to visit and thoroughly read ALL the links I included in my comment.

The best place to seek advice about creating pages is WP:TEAHOUSE.

I wish you all the best. Cabrils (talk) 05:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cabrils,

I’ve implemented the recommended changes to the draft for Spencer Aronfeld, including revising the tone, replacing unreliable sources, and addressing notability concerns with stronger references. Could you please reassess the submission when you have a moment? I’d appreciate any further guidance to ensure it meets Wikipedia’s standards.

Thank you! 2603:7000:38F0:61D0:1C9E:7D05:C89B:A8CD (talk) 16:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the ping. Please my comments on the Draft's Talk page. Cabrils (talk) 00:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Cabrils,

It's been a while. Figured I'd give you a ping about this.

I've since learned my lesson on how not to edit on Wikipedia, especially with the COI. It's been about a month since the article was deleted, but I saved a copy of the Eric Gilbertson article in my userspace prior to its deletion. I recently submitted a reworked draft of the article to AfC, having done my best to reduce fluff and self-published sources (i.e: the table is gone, information only verifiable through his blog is gone, and the blog is only referenced once which can be removed if needed). Also, ExplorersWeb, an unreliable source, has been entirely removed from the draft.

Many of the sources are independent of him (i.e: Nat Geo Poland, The Times of London, BBC, and Sueddeutsche Zeitung). Other sources, such as "The Line" on the American Alpine Club journal appear to have taken excerpts from Eric's writing but have been written by someone else. See WikiProject Climbing's climber notability.

Given his coverage between the Rainier survey and sources mentioned above (among others) do you still think he's WP:TOOSOON? Taking in the suggestions of the AfD discussion, not all coverage on him appears to be purely interviews.

Given my COI, I will not be the one to move the article to the mainspace should it be accepted by reviewers. If it is moved to the mainspace, I will also refrain from doing direct edits and would only suggest them through the talk page.

If you get a chance and are willing, I'm happy to hear feedback. I have learned my lesson and will not do any disruptive edits. I know last time I did things the wrong way, but want to do things right this time around.

Cheers and thank you for your time! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 16:08, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the ping.

That sounds like good progress and appreciate your willingness to learn.

I will have a look and come back to you (likely in the next week or so). Cabrils (talk) 00:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Cabrils! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 12:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@KnowledgeIsPower9281,

I've had a look at the current (revised) draft and I'm happy we keep developing this to see if we can get it across the line.

The draft is looking much more palatable, so I think it's now in a position to wrestle with the actual requirements. To do so:

1. It would help our volunteer reviewers by identifying, on the draft's talk page, the WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of the subject.

2. It would also be helpful if you could please identify with specificity, exactly which criteria you believe the page meets (eg "I think the page now meets WP:ANYBIO criteria #3, because XXXXX").

Also, it would be good to move our discussion to the draft's talk page, for greater visibility for all reviewers, so moving forward let's communicate there.

Thanks Cabrils (talk) 00:11, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback Cabrils! Doing WP:THREE and the page's met criteria now. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 00:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just finished! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 01:08, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@KnowledgeIsPower9281,

Apologies for such a tardy reply.

I think the revised draft looks good, and have commented on it, seeking the opinion of DJ Cane who nominated the previous version of the page for deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Gilbertson (climber)). Cabrils (talk) 01:21, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion provided. Thanks for the ping. I'm happy to collaborate with this project further if needed and/or desired. DJ Cane _(he/him) (Talk) 15:44, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @DJ Cane and @Cabrils! We'll keep working on this draft to get it ready for the mainspace and come to a consensus on what should and shouldn't be included! I guess the best place to collaborate would be the draft talk page? KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 15:56, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good one. Yes, the Talk page of the draft is the best place. Cabrils (talk) 22:04, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Cabrils and @DJ Cane, just created the topic thread on the draft talk page. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 13:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I've made the necessary edits, plus a few more. Are you able to approve it, please?

Thank you! Spangles123 (talk) 23:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping.

As I requested in my comment on the draft:

1. If you have any connection to the subject, including being the subject (see WP:AUTOBIO) or being paid, you have a conflict of interest that you must declare on your Talk page (to see instructions on how to do this please click the link).

2. It would help our volunteer reviewers by identifying, on the draft's talk page, the WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of the subject.

It would also be helpful if you could please identify with specificity, exactly which criteria you believe the page meets (eg "I think the page now meets WP:NCORP criteria #3, because XXXXX").

Further, the insubstantial changes you have made since the draft was rejected on 3 November by @Theroadislong, are not sufficient to overcome the issues previously identified. Cabrils (talk) 00:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

1. I don't have a connection to the subject. Is there a way that I can declare this?
2. I've added in-depth, reliable, secondary, strictly independent sources. The article about the school in Devon Life magazine (source 14), the BBC coverage of an event held by the School (source 15), coverage of the schools activities and exam results in the press (sources 9, 11, 12 and 13) and a recent mention of the school in The Times (source 2) means that the page now meets WP:NCORP criteria #3. The school inspection report (source 1) is an extremely in-depth, reliable, secondary, strictly independent source and I have quoted from that extensively. The school has a few notable alumni, including one of the founders of the CND. Is there anything else that I should add.
3. Theroadislong might not have been very happy because I told them that having to use direct quotes from the school inspection report instead of paraphrasing was bad writing. Despite this, I did add the quotes, as they requested.

All the other schools in the area have a Wiki page, but they don't meet all of these requirements. See King Edward VI College, South Dartmoor Community College, and Teign School. I don't understand why I'm having to jump through so many hoops, when others haven't been forced to. Spangles123 (talk) 09:23, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the ping.

Firstly, I encourage you to [create a Userpage], which will make communicating much more efficient.

Once you have done that, on the draft's Talk Page (not here on this page), as I have previously requested, please:

1. Start a discussion and declare that you do not have any connection to the subject, if that is in fact true (which seems a little doubtful given the nature of the page you are creating). For clarity: there is not necessarily a problem with having a conflict of interest (for example, you work at the school, or are a student or parent, or are being paid), but you must declare that on your Talk page.

2. It would help our volunteer reviewers by identifying, on the draft's talk page (not here on my page), the WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of the subject.

3. It would also be helpful if you could please identify with specificity, exactly which criteria you believe the page meets (eg "I think the page now meets WP:NCORP criteria #3, because XXXXX").

Doing these things will progress the assessment process.

Thanks Cabrils (talk) 00:34, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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You previously mentioned on a draft that you would reassess it when resubmitted. Draft:Neshe has been resubmitted. If you do not with to review it again, let me know and I will. Ktkvtsh (talk) 19:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for my belated reply. I see the page has already been accepted. Well done, all the best. Cabrils (talk) 04:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am in the process of editing the article on Robert Morrison, but I wanted to point to the Draft_talk:Robert_Morrison_(artist) for my responses to the concerns you raised after reading the article. Thank you! "HardyBoy3 (talk) 23:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)"[reply]

Hi, thanks for the ping.

Thanks for your helpful comments on the Talk page of the draft.

Could you please address, as requested in my comment on the draft (see my instructions there for how to correctly do this), whether you have a conflict of interest? I think by inference from your remarks that you don't, but some express clarification would accelerate the process. Thanks. Cabrils (talk) 04:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the quick response! I have added a COI notice on the talk page of the draft. Not sure if this is what you are asking for. I've also added a COI/advocacy statement onto my user talk page. Let me know your thoughts when you can. HardyBoy3 (talk) 13:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doing that.

I've reread the draft and I think it looks good now and meets the requirements. Please feel free to submit it and ping me and I would be happy to accept it. Cabrils (talk) 00:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help with all this. I have resubmitted. HardyBoy3 (talk) 13:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Article accepted. Well done, appreciate your willingness to take on feedback and collaborate. Cabrils (talk) 01:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your support in fine turning the details. HardyBoy3 (talk) 14:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]