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Rinus Vreugdenhil (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Insufficiant news references, fails WP:NMusician. Jitujadab90 (talk) 18:47, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ras Opoku (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article about musical artist that does not satisfy musical notability or general notability. Nothing in the text of this article addresses any of the musical notability criteria or refers to third-party significant coverage. This article was draftified six months ago and has been moved back to article space, and so is a contested draftification that should not be unilaterally moved back to draft space again. A review of the sources shows that they are a user-generated biography, an interview, and listings by music streaming services. There is no independent secondary coverage.

Number Reference Remarks Independent Significant Reliable Secondary
1 www.deezer.com Biographical sketch on site that has user-generated content No Yes No. User-generated. No
2 www.graphic.com.gh An interview. No Yes ? No
3 music.apple.com A listing on a music streaming service No. Anyone can list their music. No. Says that the recording is available. Yes, but only as to the existence of the recording. No
4 music.apple.com A listing on a music streaming service No. Anyone can list their music. No. Says that the recording is available. Yes, but only as to the existence of the recording. No
5 music.apple.com A listing on a music streaming service No. Anyone can list their music. No. Says that the recording is available. Yes, but only as to the existence of the recording. No

Robert McClenon (talk) 06:56, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Smith (guitarist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bit of a weird one. I reverted vandalism on this the other day and only just now actually read it. A WP:BEFORE search turns up very little, other than the "Blabbemouth" article. On the Limp Bizkit article, the subject of this article is basically just a footnote. The problems with the sources were noted 14 years ago and have not been fixed. While not libelous, the tone of the article reads as critical to me, which was further cause for concern given the sources. I'd say "Blabbermouth" is not WP:RS, another source is WP:DISCOGS. Given the fact that this BLP article has been abandoned without verification for over a decade, I'd say it's best to cut it loose. Kylemahar902 (talk) 15:07, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Winchester (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I do not believe this article meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. TheSwamphen (talk) 05:39, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Alexeyevitch(talk) 08:45, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete lacks coverage. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:57, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Twin Flames (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nominating for deletion on behalf of the article subject, requested by band member Chelsea Jodoin, per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE, WP:GNG and WP:NMG. The article subject believes the band is nonnotable, which should not have an article on Wikipedia. See VRTS ticket # 2025020410000932. Geoff | Who, me? 01:20, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I'd say this passes WP:NMG with flying colours. There's an abundance of media coverage on the band, including from the CBC which has run multiple articles on them, and Saltwire. They have won multiple awards, and apparently they've also had some charted singles although I can't find the evidence for that part. Maybe someone else knows where to find chart data; if it's confirmed that they've held charted singles, I'd say that puts it in the bag for retaining the article. Kylemahar902 (talk) 11:36, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can someone post what exactly the VTRS request says? Since it was changed from OTRS, it seems to be locked away so we can't see what they show... I've tried asking for access a few times and was turned down. Oaktree b (talk) 05:52, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Vinnie Hornsby (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable outside of his band Sevendust. This is a clear case of WP:BANDMEMBER. Edit: Just saw Hornsby is also in the supergroup Projected, so not entirely sure anymore---FMSky (talk) 13:35, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The solution there is to subject Connolly's article to this same process and see where the community discussion goes. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:37, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Nervous Fellas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article created more than a decade ago, when inclusion criteria were almost non-existent, by a couple of kamikaze accounts. Searching for significant, third-party sources that could support the subject's notability turns up a desert portrait. To wit: Self-generated content, on Facebook, such as this or this, and as websites, e.g. this, multiple times; a few dead links, e.g. here or here; and so on. Only one legitimate hit, albeit obscure and small, was this 1990 review of one of their LPs. An admirable attempt perhaps, that lived a rather long life too, to make the act better known but Wikipedia is not a directory of musical acts nor a collection of random information. -The Gnome (talk) 12:04, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing the essay to my attention. Going by AfD history and the facts, I have to say that your suggestions did not take much hold, unfortunately. Let's hope for a better-than-never denouement. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 18:57, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
District Unknown (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Coverage of the subject is limited to a few news articles about individual performances. The subjects of this article have requested its deletion, citing safety and privacy concerns. Those editors with OTRS access can reference ticket:2025011310007303. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 22:04, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If the subjects of the article want it deleted then we should respect those wishes. We could condense the article down into a section on the RocKabul page, leaving the identities of the members out of it. Although we could mention that some members have since left Afghanistan and started new projects, like Sully Omar and Yo Khalifa starting Afreet, while others have remained in Afghanistan and gone underground since the Fall of Kabul. VampireKilla (talk) 03:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a great suggestion. I think it would be appropriate to leave a redirect to the section on that page. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 04:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Kanish Sharma (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article about a film score composer, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:MUSICIAN. As always, composers are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because their work exists, and have to be shown to pass certain specific inclusion criteria (e.g. notable award wins or nominations, etc.) supported by WP:GNG-worthy reliable source coverage about them and their work -- but the fact that his work exists is the only notability claim on offer here, and the article is referenced to one directory entry that isn't support for notability at all and two very short puff blurbs from a decade ago that aren't substantive enough to get him over GNG all by themselves if they're all he's got for third-party coverage.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced considerably better than this. Bearcat (talk) 17:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

M. Tri Hamdani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article on a lesser known Indonesian rapper. Coverage from reliable sources is clearly lacking, and a WP:BEFORE search mostly shows results from social media sites. CycloneYoris talk! 22:33, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

María Figueroa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SINGER. His supposed fame began when he was 5 years old and from then on it has not been revealed for years, and clearly fails. doesn't pass GNG. AgusTates (talk) 04:19, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately she, was not admitted. AgusTates (talk) 10:21, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hometown Anthem (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable band that has been repeatedly recreated. It was deleted in 2006, editor submitted through AfC and it was declined, so they went ahead and submitted into article space anyways. Also previously created by the same editor under a different title case with lower case for the second word. Hometown anthem

There are many coverage, but shallow in depth and in a passing just enough to verify factual claims. See below for history of attempt to repeatedly create this non-notable band.

It was declined by AfC reviewers on August 14, and October 5, 2022, so editor went ahead and submitted directly to article space in May 2023.

21:28, 14 May 2023 Hellshane Asylum talk contribs created page Hometown Anthem (Created a page for Hometown Anthem) Tag: Visual edit (thank)
05:10, 27 September 2006 Mailer diablo talk contribs deleted page Hometown Anthem (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hometown Anthem) (thank)
22:06, 8 August 2022 Athaenara talk contribs deleted page Hometown anthem (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: more at User talk:Hellshane Asylum, User talk:Fullcollapse325) (thank)
21:41, 8 August 2022 Hellshane Asylum talk contribs created page Hometown anthem (New page for band) Tags: use of deprecated (unreliable) source Visual edit (thank)
08:08, 10 March 2006 Mike Rosoft talk contribs deleted page Hometown anthem (Band vanity) (thank)

Graywalls (talk) 21:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

comment and I am in support of salting both variants if the consensus is to delete. This is due to various attempts to re-create this band which had been determined to fail notability multiple times. Graywalls (talk) 00:43, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Jakub Rojek (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NMG, WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Appears to be mostly a resume and self-promotional (WP:PROMO). No significant coverage in third party, independently published sources. Geoff | Who, me? 06:10, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Glane23,
Nothing in there seems to be self-promotional and all are verifiable facts (awards, compositions, album releases etc.)
I do not understand why you are suggesting the article to be considered for deletion, when it does exactly what any other artist page does on Wikipedia (lists accomplishments on their resume).
best,
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The result was delete‎. Beeblebrox Beebletalks 23:11, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fontaine (singer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NMUSIC/WP:NBIO. Unsourced and tagged for notability since 2010. No significant coveraged located with various permutations of names and album names. Jfire (talk) 23:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Maybe the article Hun culture should be considered as well as it seems compiled through OR. Liz Read! Talk! 21:26, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hollie Jervis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Draft:Holly Jervis by User:PerfidiousSnatch was rejected last May for failing to meet WP:NSINGER with not enough significant coverage. This article is from the same user (although the text was written first in a sandbox by User:SandraHarsesWilson, who resigned and vanished shortly after this unclear response from PerfidiousSnatch about who wrote the article text) under a different spelling of the article title, initially Hollie Michelle Jervis, and it doesn't appear to meet WP:NSINGER either. "a prominent figure in hun culture" seems to be overstating it, when the sources are about a recurring joke on Twitter.

The photo in the infobox also doesn't look much like the subject, even if she has been out of the public eye for 15 years. Belbury (talk) 21:47, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Sourecs are mostly mentions of Jervis that fall short of the significant coverage requirement for ANYBIO, and many are not RS (tabloids), including WP:DAILYMIRROR, WP:METRO, etc. No criterion at WP:SINGER is met either. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 01:17, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Luke Brandon Field (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable actor. Lots of small parts but no significant roles in notable productions. (Significance of parts is puffed up in the article, "significant" part in Lotus Eaters (film)? No) Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Lots of interviews where he talks about himself but not much else. Closest is the GQ piece on the Winehouse hologram tour where he is mentioned a few times but that's not enough. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:21, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

He plays young Daniel Molloy in interview with the vampire which is a significant role within the show and will likely be expanded upon as the series continues. Interview with the vampire doesn't have that many episodes a season but he's had a starring role in two of them so far. Including the episode that was tipped for EMMY nomination
https://collider.com/interview-with-the-vampire-season-2-episode-5-luke-brandon-field/
https://www.thewrap.com/interview-with-the-vampire-daniel-molloy-luke-brandon-field-interview/ Thewandaverse (talk) 14:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Gito Sales (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All sources are unreliable or don't demonstrate notability. GNG is not met. Skyshiftertalk 14:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Alireza-Jadidi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable musician. Pizza on Pineapple (Let's eat🍕) 14:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Alireza Jadidi is one of the pioneers of instrumental music and electronic dance genre in Iran, isn't that remarkable? If you do a little research, you will realize that Iranian music has many limitations and the style of instrumental music in it is very limited. I ask you to reconsider your decision and remove the delete tag. Vikworker8 (talk) 14:16, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alireza Jadidi is one of the notable musicians in Iranian music because he is one of the few Iranian musicians who works in the genre of electronic dance and instrumental music, and his aim is to include styles that are called western styles in Iranian music. Vikworker8 (talk) 14:19, 28 January 2025 (UTC) Note to closing admin: Vikworker8 (talkcontribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
keep: Keep the article, he is an actor and writer and musician! But his activity in the music field was unremarkable and was deleted by the editors during this time, but his activity as an actor is confirmed! And it only needs a little correction and adding supplementary sources, keep his article as an actor.
Thanks Shahinfc090 (talk) 18:38, 2 February 2025 (UTC) (striking sock vote. Liz Read! Talk! 22:13, 4 February 2025 (UTC))[reply]
Also noting that the article creator has been globally blocked now. Liz Read! Talk! 02:11, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
keep: Hi, there is a draft of him because he is an actor and musician, but because his work in the field of music was not significant, that section was deleted by editors from the article, while the person who wrote this article could not be a reason. To ignore this article, then this hypothesis is completely void, and it has nothing to do with why the person who made this article is blocked, what is important is this article and I think it is worth preserving.
Your opinion is invalid and irrational Shahinfc090 (talk) 11:58, 3 February 2025 (UTC) (striking sock and duplicate vote Liz Read! Talk! 22:13, 4 February 2025 (UTC))[reply]
Actually, I wasn't voting, just informing editors about an existing draft. And your vote is invalid because, like all of the editors voting to Keep this article, you are all blocked as socks. Liz Read! Talk! 22:13, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Graham Dalby (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Still no evidence he meets WP:MUSICBIO yet. In a WP:BEFORE search the only secondary coverage I could find of him was this article in the local weekly Kent Messenger. Couldn't find any RS that he'd written for, sung for or appeared in anything on the BBC, just fragments on social media, Soundcloud, etc. Editors hunting for coverage, please note there's an unrelated jockey with the same name, so you might want to exclude the word "jockey" on a search. Wikishovel (talk) 09:44, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leave Graham Dalby the way as it is, it will eventually meet WP:MUSICBIO. I will add sources to it. It was under construction, don't take it down. Mrtoadtv (talk) 14:55, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, it would have been better if I'd moved it to draft rather than taken it straight to AFD. Wikishovel (talk) 10:25, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Altaf Tadavi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No other reason of notability except winning a season of Big Boss, a notable reality show. The subject fails WP:ENT and WP:MUSICBIO. Also see MC Stan, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MC Stan, this and this Taabii (talk) 11:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Rolling Stone India articles are about his music career and don't fall under NEWSORGINDIA, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:04, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Makin' Time (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is the page for a 1980s British rock band. It's been tagged as unsourced for nearly eight years. None of their recordings appear to have made much of an impact on the music charts, and only one member went on to have any success (bassist Martin Blunt, who founded The Charlatans but does not have his own Wikipedia page). I've found a brief mention in an online fanzine, and a review of one of their album reissues, but nothing that would meet the criteria listed at WP:BAND. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 18:51, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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JeriQ (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails all ramifications of WP:COMPOSER or WP:NMUSICIAN. The nominations are not exclusive and so do not inherently confer both guidelines I just mentioned.

Citation 1 from marginally reliable Vanguard with no substantial coverage.

Citation 2 from the same marginally reliable source is utterly unreliable as it lacks a byline and does not provide any useful information.

Citation 3 lacks a byline and is only 104 words, no substantial coverage.

Citation 4 does not only lack a byline, it is definitely a sponsored piece.

Citations 5, 6, and 14 are the usual nomination lists.

Citations 7 and 8 has nothing to offer to this subject's passing of WP:GNG.

Citations 9, 10, 11, 12, and 13 provide no substantial coverage about this subject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging the participants of the November 2024 discussion to see if anything has changed... @Versace1608, @Bearian, @Ibjaja055. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:22, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I also cannot comprehend why you do not find the way this article was created deceptively concerning, This, then how it was moved to the supposedly correct title.
Again, "Nyem Ego" is another feature. Below is my analysis of the sources you added so far. This, coupled with my above analysis makes it evident that Jeriq is not yet a notable musician.
Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
~ The ridiculously promotional nature of this piece is a clear sign ~ Ditto No Provide literally no substantial coverage about the subject. No
No Reflecting on the concert’s significance, JeriQ told Saturday Beats,..., clearly not. ~ Ditto No Provide literally no substantial coverage about the subject. No
No An interview... No ...while not entirely prohibited, cannot be the base on a subject's notability. Yes Ditto No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

--Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:20, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That it's not a Nigerian chart is not relevant, and neither is the fact it's a collaboration. Jeriq, evidently a major contributor to the piece of music, still has featured in the top 50 of a reliable chart aggregator, contributing to WP:MUSICBIO#2. He has been nominated, as a solo artist, twice for a notable national award which is WP:VERIFIED, and contributes to WP:MUSICBIO#8. At least two collaborative works with different artists have achieved non-trivial critical "best of" selections in independent sources, contributing to WP:MUSICBIO#1. The article in TurnTableCharts magazine (a website listed as a WP-reliable Nigerian source) is not only a curated interview but includes notability-supporting journalistic bylined non-trivial biographical information contributing to WP:MUSICBIO#1 (per WP:INTERVIEW). The nature of the page creation is irrelevant to the notability of the subject; for the record I have updated the article to try and improve it. Overall, the evidence points to the subject meeting the relevant notability guideline, and therefore I maintain my position to keep. ResonantDistortion 16:56, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Foxtails (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't seem to meet WP:NBAND. Going through the 6 sources, the first is their personal bandcamp, the second is an article I don't have access to but it seems connected to the band, the third is "foxtails interview", fourth is "new album out now", fifth is a review of one of their albums (no significant coverage about the band), and sixth is an interview about a new EP release. My external searches give me little more than what is here already. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:27, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Their bandcamp was only used as a source for the pronouns of the band members, since some older interviews do not reflect the current pronouns used by the band members. The second source is an article from the Hartford Courant, a newspaper from Connecticut. This is not connected to the band in any way, nor are any of the other four sources. I suppose there is also a bit of a discrepancy about what we consider to be coverage of the band. I would think that coverage of an artist's works would be considered coverage of the artist since the purpose of most music publications is to talk about the music itself. Unless you are only including sources which talk about the band members' personal lives and disregarding sources about their music, which seems somewhat counter-intuitive for me. To my knowledge, there is not a specific minimum number of sources required to establish notability, but I thought five (not connected to the band) would be sufficient. If this is not the case, how many sources and/or what types of sources would have to be added for the article to not be deleted? Thanks. Ptarmica (talk) 03:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Coverage of the artist's work is not coverage of the artist. Coverage of the artist's work is good if you wanted to have an article on the works' themselves, i.e. something like Home (Foxtails album), but it doesn't establish anything for the band if the band (as an entity) is never the subject of these sources. Utopes (talk /cont) 07:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree, coverage of their works is obviously about the band in the same way that coverage of an author's books, or an artist's works contribute to their notability. This is necessary for notability as interviews are excluded from notability considerations if they have no independent prose but can still be used in the article if from reliable sources so it's not as if there is no usable coverage of the band, imv Atlantic306 (talk)
  • Leaning towards delete or draftify - this may be WP:TOOSOON if they're an underground/only locally known band just starting to be written about in large music publications like BrooklynVegan. I see the members are LGBTQ and one of the members speaks Spanish, is there any coverage from LGBTQ media outlets or Spanish-language ones? Sarsenet (talk) 09:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I have added three more references. They do meet WP:BAND, having "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself". There is non-trivial coverage in the Hartford Courant, Stereogum, BrooklynVegan, Idioteq, Sputnikmusic and Jellybones. Four of those are definitely considered reliable, and Jellybones has an editorial team. Coverage of a band's works and performances does contribute to notability. RebeccaGreen (talk) 03:03, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Cheryl Moana Marie Nunes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject is only notable due to her marriage with Antonio Sabàto Jr. - see WP:INVALIDBIO. Martey (talk) 23:56, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: there are multiple claims to notability. She did more recently receive press from her marriage with Antonio Sabàto Jr, but she meets WP:SINGER for creating the Hawaiian Tropicè theme song, singing the Star Spangled Banner for various notable events, etc., WP:ENT for TV work such as Starz... CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 02:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SINGER says "regardless of what notability criterion is being claimed, the claim must be properly verified by reliable sources independent of the subject's own self-published promotional materials". Before listing this article, I looked but I couldn't find any reliable sources that predated her marriage to Sabàto.
If you are aware of any reliable sources that establish her notability as a singer (or anything else), please add them to the article. Without the existence of such sources, notability can't be proven and the article should be deleted. Martey (talk) 20:10, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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