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Delete: Lack of coverage for this individual; I can't find any. Article only has primary or database sourcing. With no Dutch article to compare too, I can't find sourcing we can use to show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 21:09, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article about musical artist that does not satisfy musical notability or general notability. Nothing in the text of this article addresses any of the musical notability criteria or refers to third-party significant coverage. This article was draftified six months ago and has been moved back to article space, and so is a contested draftification that should not be unilaterally moved back to draft space again. A review of the sources shows that they are a user-generated biography, an interview, and listings by music streaming services. There is no independent secondary coverage.
Number
Reference
Remarks
Independent
Significant
Reliable
Secondary
1
www.deezer.com
Biographical sketch on site that has user-generated content
No
Yes
No. User-generated.
No
2
www.graphic.com.gh
An interview.
No
Yes
?
No
3
music.apple.com
A listing on a music streaming service
No. Anyone can list their music.
No. Says that the recording is available.
Yes, but only as to the existence of the recording.
No
4
music.apple.com
A listing on a music streaming service
No. Anyone can list their music.
No. Says that the recording is available.
Yes, but only as to the existence of the recording.
No
5
music.apple.com
A listing on a music streaming service
No. Anyone can list their music.
No. Says that the recording is available.
Yes, but only as to the existence of the recording.
Delete - We've seen this hundreds of times with new African musicians. They pay for placement in unreliable regional publications that simply reprint press releases, then try to use those as proof of media coverage in a WP article. Good luck to him as he gets started but he has to do the work to get noticed by reliable media. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 23:05, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Bit of a weird one. I reverted vandalism on this the other day and only just now actually read it. A WP:BEFORE search turns up very little, other than the "Blabbemouth" article. On the Limp Bizkit article, the subject of this article is basically just a footnote. The problems with the sources were noted 14 years ago and have not been fixed. While not libelous, the tone of the article reads as critical to me, which was further cause for concern given the sources. I'd say "Blabbermouth" is not WP:RS, another source is WP:DISCOGS. Given the fact that this BLP article has been abandoned without verification for over a decade, I'd say it's best to cut it loose. Kylemahar902 (talk) 15:07, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - In addition to the two Blabbermouth articles already cited, I found one more at [1], and he has another reliable source from Louder at [2]. As a member of two notable bands (Limp Bizkit and Snot) he satisfies criterion #6 at WP:NMUSIC, though his notability outside those two bands is mostly non-existent. Therefore, if the article is kept it should pared back to verifiable info and his various other activities could be discarded as non-notable. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 23:00, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I guess there's nothing more Canadian than a musical group that wins... at least three folk music awards and has a list longer than my arm of nominations, and still thinks they aren't notable. Sorry, FOUR awards. Seriously, we're screaming out the window how great Canada is lately and this group is an example of that. And the at least FIVE RS covering them. Oaktree b (talk) 01:30, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A four-time folk award winner implies notability, there's a ton of coverage in RS. Indigenous-Canadian representation is sadly lacking in Wikipedia, so this helps combat bias as well. Oaktree b (talk) 03:04, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I'd say this passes WP:NMG with flying colours. There's an abundance of media coverage on the band, including from the CBC which has run multiple articles on them, and Saltwire. They have won multiple awards, and apparently they've also had some charted singles although I can't find the evidence for that part. Maybe someone else knows where to find chart data; if it's confirmed that they've held charted singles, I'd say that puts it in the bag for retaining the article. Kylemahar902 (talk) 11:36, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Ultimately the question of whether a band gets into Wikipedia or not isn't their own personal decision to make, it's our notability criteria's decision to make — and while there are certainly edge cases where the notability claim and its sourceability are weak enough that we could take the subject's personal wishes into account, this isn't one of them. The Canadian Folk Music Awards are a clear pass of WP:NMUSIC #8, and the Native American Music Association Awards could potentially satisfy NMUSIC #8 as well (though I'll grant that they don't have an article yet by which I could tell whether they would or not); they have a substantial amount of GNG-worthy coverage that clearly passes NMUSIC #1 (which basically amounts to "passes GNG on their coverage"); they created the theme song for an important international event, passing NMUSIC #10; and they did get quite a bit of radio airplay a few years ago with a lovely indigenized cover of "Grace, Too" (I can't verify any specific chart positions for it anywhere either, but it would satisfy NMUSIC #11 regardless as it did get played on CBC Music.) So I'm not too clear on what the non-notability argument would be here, because they absolutely pass our notability criteria — however, I note that the article has had content removed from it in the past year, both by anonymous IPs (who were almost certainly Chelsea) deeming some information as incorrect or irrelevant, and by established editors toning down advertorialism. So this is likely not so much "we really don't think we're notable enough for an article at all", and more "we want editorial control of it ourselves, and want it to not exist at all if we can't have that", but that latter isn't how things work around here. And also, yes, we have a tremendous problem on here with systemic underrepresentation of indigenous personalities and topics — so I absolutely fail to see how deleting a genuinely notable and accomplished indigenous band would help us with that. Bearcat (talk) 15:15, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for the obvious reasons listed by everyone above, and perhaps ask Chelsea Jodoin why she wants her own successful band to be erased from Wikipedia. Whatever bugs her could be fixed during normal editing. I recall one other band where this has happened: The Red Paintings, an easily notable band in which the singer, then someone claiming to represent him, requested deletion with an argument about his privacy. See some bizarre discussions at that band's talk page. Someone with those concerns should consider the value of a WP article. I was not previously familiar with the music of Twin Flames, and now I might be interested in checking it out because of this article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:34, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The band is active in trying to promote inclusion and understanding [4], I don't get what erasing their article on Wikipedia would accomplish. I suppose they can't control the message here as they can on their own website, but they appear to be doing good work. Oaktree b (talk) 05:51, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can someone post what exactly the VTRS request says? Since it was changed from OTRS, it seems to be locked away so we can't see what they show... I've tried asking for access a few times and was turned down. Oaktree b (talk) 05:52, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sevendust. The nominator is correct that he has achieved no personal notability outside the band. The article attempts to beef things up with a basic band history and minor trivia about his height and number of tattoos. I'm taller than him and have more tattoos, but that doesn't get me a WP article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:41, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. It should be noted that Vinnie's bandmate, John Connolly, also might possibly not have notability outside of Sevendust. It seems inconsistent to remove Vinnie's page but keep John's; otherwise, having pages for all five core members seems to be the most logical and uniform decision - especially since Sevendust is decently well-known in the metal/rock genres, at least, on a consistent 25+ year scale. I suppose I'd support redirecting Vinnie's page only if John's got redirected as well (for context, the other 3 members Lajon & Clint & Morgan, have all made numerous appearances outside of Sevendust unlike John & Vinnie). Xanarki (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
On the contrary: I had written User:Uncle G/On notability the year before this article was created, and even that was preceded by a whole debate on how inclusion criteria should work. The thing that we didn't have in 2007 that we have now is the much stronger AFC and Draft processes (although AFC existed from 2005) and the push back no-indication-of-notability tools at New Pages patrol for people, musical groups, and companies. Uncle G (talk) 13:19, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for bringing the essay to my attention. Going by AfD history and the facts, I have to say that your suggestions did not take much hold, unfortunately. Let's hope for a better-than-never denouement. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 18:57, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Coverage of the subject is limited to a few news articles about individual performances. The subjects of this article have
requested its deletion, citing safety and privacy concerns. Those editors with OTRS access can reference ticket:2025011310007303. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg22:04, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If the subjects of the article want it deleted then we should respect those wishes. We could condense the article down into a section on the RocKabul page, leaving the identities of the members out of it. Although we could mention that some members have since left Afghanistan and started new projects, like Sully Omar and Yo Khalifa starting Afreet, while others have remained in Afghanistan and gone underground since the Fall of Kabul. VampireKilla (talk) 03:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article about a film score composer, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:MUSICIAN. As always, composers are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because their work exists, and have to be shown to pass certain specific inclusion criteria (e.g. notable award wins or nominations, etc.) supported by WP:GNG-worthy reliable source coverage about them and their work -- but the fact that his work exists is the only notability claim on offer here, and the article is referenced to one directory entry that isn't support for notability at all and two very short puff blurbs from a decade ago that aren't substantive enough to get him over GNG all by themselves if they're all he's got for third-party coverage. Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced considerably better than this. Bearcat (talk) 17:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The Liputani 6 source in the article is trivial, the other one looks better. This [5], but both are rather short and read as PROMO when I translate them. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:47, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. He is not notable. Found one more article here, but it doesn't seem organic and still with only 3 articles, he would not be notable enough. Darkm777 (talk) 03:27, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I understand that this article currently lacks strong enough references to satisfy WP:NMUSIC. However, the subject already has a presence in the music industry with official releases through SoundOn and is listed on MusicBrainz, which is an international music database. Although the current sources are not enough to prove eligibility on Wikipedia, I would like to request that this article not be immediately deleted, but rather moved to Draft: so that it can be improved and more relevant sources added in the future. Given the opportunity to develop this article further, we may seek additional references from more credible media to ensure compliance with Wikipedia policies. Thank You. Karyaanakbangsa (talk) 18:35, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Spanish wiki has several recent references about a failed audition for The X Factor, so she still seems to be a recognised name. And notability is not temporary. PamD08:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable band that has been repeatedly recreated. It was deleted in 2006, editor submitted through AfC and it was declined, so they went ahead and submitted into article space anyways. Also previously created by the same editor under a different title case with lower case for the second word. Hometown anthem
There are many coverage, but shallow in depth and in a passing just enough to verify factual claims. See below for history of attempt to repeatedly create this non-notable band.
under the title Hometown Anthem
It was declined by AfC reviewers on August 14, and October 5, 2022, so editor went ahead and submitted directly to article space in May 2023.
21:28, 14 May 2023 Hellshane Asylum talk contribs created page Hometown Anthem (Created a page for Hometown Anthem) Tag: Visual edit (thank)
05:10, 27 September 2006 Mailer diablo talk contribs deleted page Hometown Anthem (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hometown Anthem) (thank)
under the title Hometown anthem (lower case anthem)
22:06, 8 August 2022 Athaenara talk contribs deleted page Hometown anthem (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: more at User talk:Hellshane Asylum, User talk:Fullcollapse325) (thank)
21:41, 8 August 2022 Hellshane Asylum talk contribs created page Hometown anthem (New page for band) Tags: use of deprecated (unreliable) source Visual edit (thank)
08:08, 10 March 2006 Mike Rosoft talk contribs deleted page Hometown anthem (Band vanity) (thank)
comment and I am in support of salting both variants if the consensus is to delete. This is due to various attempts to re-create this band which had been determined to fail notability multiple times. Graywalls (talk) 00:43, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not helped by the article being a massive REFBOMB, it seems there is no real evidence of notability cited and I can't find anything further. They are featured on the album Punk The Clock, but this allmusic staff review does not even mention them or their song. This is a sigcov review, [6], but the byline is just "Tom" so potentially user generated or a blog at best. There is an accompanying WP article for the EP If We Could Dream, which suffers the exact same issues; if technically possible I'd recommend adding it into this nomination. ResonantDistortion18:04, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing in there seems to be self-promotional and all are verifiable facts (awards, compositions, album releases etc.)
I do not understand why you are suggesting the article to be considered for deletion, when it does exactly what any other artist page does on Wikipedia (lists accomplishments on their resume).
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Delete This may be a case of WP:TOOSOON, if she has recently signed with BMG Records. I have found only one article about her [7], apart from a few mentions in newspapers when she was at school (creating an ad in class, and an award for a recycling project, which names her mother), and a para in an article on battling inflation (she delivers for Instacart, and will cut out Starbucks iced coffee). I haven't found reviews of her albums, and she doesn't meet WP:NMUSIC with having a few songs played on individual episodes of TV series. RebeccaGreen (talk) 01:57, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Draft:Holly Jervis by User:PerfidiousSnatch was rejected last May for failing to meet WP:NSINGER with not enough significant coverage. This article is from the same user (although the text was written first in a sandbox by User:SandraHarsesWilson, who resigned and vanished shortly after this unclear response from PerfidiousSnatch about who wrote the article text) under a different spelling of the article title, initially Hollie Michelle Jervis, and it doesn't appear to meet WP:NSINGER either. "a prominent figure in hun culture" seems to be overstating it, when the sources are about a recurring joke on Twitter.
Delete: Citations are a mess, most are not in RS.. We're left with a reality tv appearance, thinly sourced in RS. I don't think that's enough to hang our notability. I don't find any kind of sourcing we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 23:56, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't find any "serious" sources about her. The sources in the article are mainly fringe publications. She is mainly known for an embarrassing audition for X-Factor. (Which she failed.) Lamona (talk) 01:27, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Non notable actor. Lots of small parts but no significant roles in notable productions. (Significance of parts is puffed up in the article, "significant" part in Lotus Eaters (film)? No) Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Lots of interviews where he talks about himself but not much else. Closest is the GQ piece on the Winehouse hologram tour where he is mentioned a few times but that's not enough. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:21, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
He plays young Daniel Molloy in interview with the vampire which is a significant role within the show and will likely be expanded upon as the series continues. Interview with the vampire doesn't have that many episodes a season but he's had a starring role in two of them so far. Including the episode that was tipped for EMMY nomination
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: A source review would be helpful here. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk!05:27, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – I do not think that just because a source is in a foreign language, it should be considered unreliable. Since he has a lot of coverage in his own country, he is notable. Many sources are already in the article that seem good such as ops4.com, cnab.art.br, jornaltribuna, jornaldr1.Darkm777 (talk) 03:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Darkm777: Who said that the problem are the sources being foreign though? I am Brazilian and I know how to analyze Brazilian sources, and all of the websites you menioned are clearly unreliable. Skyshiftertalk04:00, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Alireza Jadidi is one of the pioneers of instrumental music and electronic dance genre in Iran, isn't that remarkable? If you do a little research, you will realize that Iranian music has many limitations and the style of instrumental music in it is very limited. I ask you to reconsider your decision and remove the delete tag. Vikworker8 (talk) 14:16, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alireza Jadidi is one of the notable musicians in Iranian music because he is one of the few Iranian musicians who works in the genre of electronic dance and instrumental music, and his aim is to include styles that are called western styles in Iranian music. Vikworker8 (talk) 14:19, 28 January 2025 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Vikworker8 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
keep: Hello, yes, your opinion is almost correct! In fact, he is a musician, actor, and writer! His books are also available exclusively on Amazon! But the sources that cited his activity in the field of music were not convincing in the eyes of some editors and they removed his activity in the field of music, but his activity as an actor has been confirmed and can be confirmed in sources such as allmovie and imdb and some Iranian sources. This article as an actor should be preserved, too much sensitivity can delete a good article by mistake! Kur200tv3 (talk) 18:22, 2 February 2025 (UTC) (striking sock vote LizRead!Talk!22:13, 4 February 2025 (UTC))[reply]
keep: Keep the article, he is an actor and writer and musician! But his activity in the music field was unremarkable and was deleted by the editors during this time, but his activity as an actor is confirmed! And it only needs a little correction and adding supplementary sources, keep his article as an actor.
Comment There is currently a draft version of this article at Draft:Alireza Jadidi (musician) that editors can continue to work on if this article is deleted. It makes no mention of an acting career though. To new editors, what we need to keep this article are reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the subject, not pleas to keep an article.
keep: Hi, there is a draft of him because he is an actor and musician, but because his work in the field of music was not significant, that section was deleted by editors from the article, while the person who wrote this article could not be a reason. To ignore this article, then this hypothesis is completely void, and it has nothing to do with why the person who made this article is blocked, what is important is this article and I think it is worth preserving.
Actually, I wasn't voting, just informing editors about an existing draft. And your vote is invalid because, like all of the editors voting to Keep this article, you are all blocked as socks. LizRead!Talk!22:13, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still no evidence he meets WP:MUSICBIO yet. In a WP:BEFORE search the only secondary coverage I could find of him was this article in the local weekly Kent Messenger. Couldn't find any RS that he'd written for, sung for or appeared in anything on the BBC, just fragments on social media, Soundcloud, etc. Editors hunting for coverage, please note there's an unrelated jockey with the same name, so you might want to exclude the word "jockey" on a search. Wikishovel (talk) 09:44, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is quite a lot of coverage in digitised British newspapers. I'm pretty sure he will meet WP:GNG and/or WP:MUSICBIO. I'll add some sources. We really need the British Newspaper Archive in the Wikipedia Library so other editors can find the sources there too! RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:58, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Leave Graham Dalby the way as it is, it will eventually meet WP:MUSICBIO. I will add sources to it. It was under construction, don't take it down. Mrtoadtv (talk) 14:55, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There's also a short staff bio on Allmusic referenced in the article, which is an WP:RSMUSIC, and an album review in The Syncopated Times now cited too. The BBC website has evidence on his contributions, including Dalby and the orchestra he founded playing a significant section on BBC Radio 2 - see [9]. ResonantDistortion18:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I gather that the reason this article was nominated for deletion less than 7 hours after it was created is that it was previously deleted, 7 years ago. Given that the article has an Under Construction notice, though, surely more time could have been allowed for the article creator to work on it? It could have been tagged for whatever the issues were thought to be, rather than bringing it straight to AfD. And, article creator, I recommend that you work on new articles as drafts and move them when they're more ready. RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The subject and the band he founded have had verified major segments on national radio ([10] in 2015) and on national TV ([11] in 1988). This meets WP:MUSICBIO#12. Also - there are a number of secondary sources sufficient to provide, at minimum, coverage for a start class biographical article. Article has also been significantly updated since nomination with 11 citations added. ResonantDistortion20:10, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep is appropriate here, there is a lot of well-sourced material here, therefore it meets WP:MUSICBIO, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:RS. Therefore it should be kept as it is and the discussion should be closed as Keep, and the page is not deleted. Mrtoadtv (talk) 21:41, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as has substantial coverage of his music career in three Rolling Stone India articles already referenced in the article. Also news coverage of his winning Big Boss certainly contributes to his notability and is a claim to winning a major competition as per WP:ANYBIO, also passes WP:GNG imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:47, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep.Delete. Per nom. Winner of reality show Bigg Boss (although 1E), but enough coverage in multiple Rolling Stone articles and GQ India makes the subject pass WP:NBIO. RangersRus (talk) 16:53, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I'm going to be contrarian here for a reason. I recall that we generally keep articles about the winners of 'major' reality shows. Am I wrong? Bearian (talk) 21:57, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The subject is not only a winner of the Bigg Boss event but also an established rapper. When considering WP:ANYBIO, the subject meets the criteria due to their notable achievement of winning the Bigg Boss event. Furthermore, even before their participation in Bigg Boss, they had a career as a rapper, which aligns with the WP:ENT criteria for entertainers. Additionally, the subject has received significant media coverage, including in-depth features by BBC and several Urdu newspapers, which further solidifies their notability. Baqi:) (talk) 09:41, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The previous AfD happened before the three Rolling Stone articles were published. If we group all the Rolling Stone coverage as one and add the Bigg Boss title coverage, the subject seems borderline notable. Some sources call him an undeserving winner. Considering this and the fact that Indian media publishes a lot of articles, I wouldn’t argue for a strong keep, but it does pass GNG and there is enough to write a neutral article. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:42, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, feels like this AFD is another case of systematic bias given that I've seen winners of many western reality shows keep their pages. He meets WP:GNG and seems like quite a notable figure. Also those deletions are from two years ago, much has changed. jolielover♥talk02:33, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is the page for a 1980s British rock band. It's been tagged as unsourced for nearly eight years. None of their recordings appear to have made much of an impact on the music charts, and only one member went on to have any success (bassist Martin Blunt, who founded The Charlatans but does not have his own Wikipedia page). I've found a brief mention in an online fanzine, and a review of one of their album reissues, but nothing that would meet the criteria listed at WP:BAND. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 18:51, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A search has identified a number of secondary articles in reliable sources including a feature article and album reviews. Citations have been added to the article. Subject appears to be meet WP:MUSICBIO#1. ResonantDistortion23:42, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the article has been substantially improved since nomination using references showing significant coverage in multiple reliable sources such as Melody Maker, Record Mirror, Music Week and others so that WP:GNG is passed in my view, Atlantic306 (talk)
Fails all ramifications of WP:COMPOSER or WP:NMUSICIAN. The nominations are not exclusive and so do not inherently confer both guidelines I just mentioned.
I do not agree that this article fails all ramifications of WP:NMUSICIAN, as subject has:
"Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart". | "the highest new entry this week on Top Albums at #4. BILLION DOLLAR DREAM by Jeriq is the biggest winner, moving up by 57 slots to #21."[12][13]
The Subject's notoriety can be supported by [14], from a notable magazine with a byline, and is named in some Wikipedia articles including Igbo music where he is referenced as one of the "Notable Igbo musicians."
2. "Has won or been nominated for a major music award". The Headies being a major music award in Nigeria and Africa has nominated the subject twice, as the links to the nominations has tried to prove. These nominations are seen in The Headies 2023 and the award's website [15]Chukwukadibia1 (talk) 19:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I find I cannot agree with this nomination; subject appears to meet WP:MUSICBIO. Further to the verified notable award nominations (it is not clear from the nom why they do not count), and the several above citations (which include a secondary analysis in a reliable source the subject "has been making waves in the Nigerian music scene with his hit singles and collaborations" [16]), there is further coverage including Billboard charting, Billboard critical coverage, concert review in an WP:RSNG source, and the subject had a cover feature on the WP:RSNGTurnTableCharts magazine with a sigcov bylined intro. ResonantDistortion17:14, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment- some of the above sourcing has been added to the article now, including the charting citation, and also a critics end of year "best of" list for Rolling Stone magazine. Some copyediting and tidying up done too. ResonantDistortion20:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You did a good job, ResonantDistortion, but sorry, it doesn't add a pinch of salt of WP:GNG for the subject. Firstly, for the charting, NMUSICIAN says that "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart" (emphasis mine). Not only is the Billboard chart entry being not a single, ("Oganigwe" by Zlatan featuring Odumodublvck and Jeriq), Billboard is not Nigerian's national music chart. Plus, if the song charted No. 47 on the Billboard U.S. Afrobeats Songs, it didn't really chart to confer notability on who was featured, nope, it didn't. This Afrobeats Fresh Picks also has the same issue, provides nothing to establish the mentioned notability on Jeriq.
I also cannot comprehend why you do not find the way this article was created deceptively concerning, This, then how it was moved to the supposedly correct title.
Again, "Nyem Ego" is another feature. Below is my analysis of the sources you added so far. This, coupled with my above analysis makes it evident that Jeriq is not yet a notable musician.
...while not entirely prohibited, cannot be the base on a subject's notability.
Ditto
✘No
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That it's not a Nigerian chart is not relevant, and neither is the fact it's a collaboration. Jeriq, evidently a major contributor to the piece of music, still has featured in the top 50 of a reliable chart aggregator, contributing to WP:MUSICBIO#2. He has been nominated, as a solo artist, twice for a notable national award which is WP:VERIFIED, and contributes to WP:MUSICBIO#8. At least two collaborative works with different artists have achieved non-trivial critical "best of" selections in independent sources, contributing to WP:MUSICBIO#1. The article in TurnTableCharts magazine (a website listed as a WP-reliable Nigerian source) is not only a curated interview but includes notability-supporting journalistic bylined non-trivial biographical information contributing to WP:MUSICBIO#1 (per WP:INTERVIEW). The nature of the page creation is irrelevant to the notability of the subject; for the record I have updated the article to try and improve it. Overall, the evidence points to the subject meeting the relevant notability guideline, and therefore I maintain my position to keep. ResonantDistortion16:56, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. The subject's debut album, Billion Dollar Dream, was critically reviewed by Afrocritik and The Native. He has received two nominations at The Headies. As previously pointed out, he charted on a Billboard chart as a guest act. These three reasons should be good enough for a weak keep. When I previously nominated the article, I didn't see reviews of his debut album in reliable sources. I also didn't see his nominations at The Headies. Perhaps I could have done a more in-depth search but preliminary search results didn't show reliable coverage at the time. The article contains a few promotional wording and definitely needs to be cleaned up. Versace1608Wanna Talk?17:39, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Doesn't seem to meet WP:NBAND. Going through the 6 sources, the first is their personal bandcamp, the second is an article I don't have access to but it seems connected to the band, the third is "foxtails interview", fourth is "new album out now", fifth is a review of one of their albums (no significant coverage about the band), and sixth is an interview about a new EP release. My external searches give me little more than what is here already. Utopes(talk / cont)17:27, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Their bandcamp was only used as a source for the pronouns of the band members, since some older interviews do not reflect the current pronouns used by the band members. The second source is an article from the Hartford Courant, a newspaper from Connecticut. This is not connected to the band in any way, nor are any of the other four sources. I suppose there is also a bit of a discrepancy about what we consider to be coverage of the band. I would think that coverage of an artist's works would be considered coverage of the artist since the purpose of most music publications is to talk about the music itself. Unless you are only including sources which talk about the band members' personal lives and disregarding sources about their music, which seems somewhat counter-intuitive for me. To my knowledge, there is not a specific minimum number of sources required to establish notability, but I thought five (not connected to the band) would be sufficient. If this is not the case, how many sources and/or what types of sources would have to be added for the article to not be deleted? Thanks. Ptarmica (talk) 03:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Coverage of the artist's work is not coverage of the artist. Coverage of the artist's work is good if you wanted to have an article on the works' themselves, i.e. something like Home (Foxtails album), but it doesn't establish anything for the band if the band (as an entity) is never the subject of these sources. Utopes(talk /cont)07:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree, coverage of their works is obviously about the band in the same way that coverage of an author's books, or an artist's works contribute to their notability. This is necessary for notability as interviews are excluded from notability considerations if they have no independent prose but can still be used in the article if from reliable sources so it's not as if there is no usable coverage of the band, imv Atlantic306 (talk)
Leaning towards delete or draftify - this may be WP:TOOSOON if they're an underground/only locally known band just starting to be written about in large music publications like BrooklynVegan. I see the members are LGBTQ and one of the members speaks Spanish, is there any coverage from LGBTQ media outlets or Spanish-language ones? Sarsenet (talk) 09:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have added three more references. They do meet WP:BAND, having "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself". There is non-trivial coverage in the Hartford Courant, Stereogum, BrooklynVegan, Idioteq, Sputnikmusic and Jellybones. Four of those are definitely considered reliable, and Jellybones has an editorial team. Coverage of a band's works and performances does contribute to notability. RebeccaGreen (talk) 03:03, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - I disagree with the comment on her notability tied to her husband. The only section that has sourcing is her Personal life. The career section is totally not sourced, but that section shows her notability. — Maile (talk) 01:38, 16 January 2025 (UTC) I have changed my vote to Delete. I've been searching for info on her for weeks. Nothing comes up. — Maile (talk) 03:08, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Confused. This person is clearly a big celebrity, but she doesn't have a lot of coverage in mainstream media, leading me to wonder why she's gotten so little coverage, at least from what I see on Googling, from them compared to what's in the article. Has there been a blacklist? Is she just famous for being famous? What's going on? I'm genuinely interested in an answer, so please ping me. Bearian (talk) 03:31, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: there are multiple claims to notability. She did more recently receive press from her marriage with Antonio Sabàto Jr, but she meets WP:SINGER for creating the Hawaiian Tropicè theme song, singing the Star Spangled Banner for various notable events, etc., WP:ENT for TV work such as Starz... CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 02:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SINGER says "regardless of what notability criterion is being claimed, the claim must be properly verified by reliable sourcesindependent of the subject's own self-published promotional materials". Before listing this article, I looked but I couldn't find any reliable sources that predated her marriage to Sabàto.
If you are aware of any reliable sources that establish her notability as a singer (or anything else), please add them to the article. Without the existence of such sources, notability can't be proven and the article should be deleted. Martey (talk) 20:10, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I don't agree that "this person is clearly a big celebrity" or even that she is "famous". Her IMDb page has only 4 news items (see https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0547234/news/ ), all of which were to report her marriage to Antonio Sabato Jr. I wouldn't consider Sabato that big a star, but IMDb has 223 news items about him. And to compare that to someone who is clearly a superstar, IMDb has over 40,000 news items about Taylor Swift. Judging from the sources in this article, it appears that to the extent that Nunes receives any media coverage at all, it is WP:INHERITED from her relationship with Sabato, as all of the cited sources other than her own web site include Sabato's name in the headline. --Metropolitan90(talk)04:21, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]