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Scotland

Mya Goodman

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Fails GNG. The Dunfermline Press source isn't good enough to pass GNG. Searching only found mentions in match reports. Dougal18 (talk) 13:35, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Scotland. Skynxnex (talk) 14:25, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – It looks like the day has come to put Livingston's last players to rest. Anyway, sadly, WP:GNG fails. Svartner (talk) 14:35, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Like the nom, I was unable to find enough coverage to meet GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 21:12, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 11:19, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:24, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ashley Elizabeth

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She fails GNG. A search of her under both surnames found no significant coverage. Dougal18 (talk) 13:15, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – It looks like the day has come to put Livingston's last players to rest. Anyway, sadly, WP:GNG fails. Svartner (talk) 14:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. The 2 x Daily Record sources not enough. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:23, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rangers F.C. 0–1 Queen's Park F.C.

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Wikipedia is not news website where every match played would have its own article. There is nothing unique in this match to warrant a separate article. Mekomo (talk) 06:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports, Football, and Scotland. Mekomo (talk) 06:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is as notable as Berwick Rangers F.C. 1-0 Rangers F.C. which has its own page. This was the first time in its history that Rangers lost to a lower league club, at home, in the Scottish Cup. The topic generated wide media coverage and discussion and the details around the match deserve to be preserved in an article for those who will be interested in this match in future. Regards 2A00:23C8:3D81:7801:AD:1CE4:4EAF:9A60 (talk) 07:52, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I am the editor who started this article but I’m commenting on a different device and hadn’t logged in. sorry. Regards 2A00:23C8:3D81:7801:AD:1CE4:4EAF:9A60 (talk) 07:54, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First time Rangers have ever lost at home to a lower division club in the Scottish Cup. Does that make it Notable or a cute bit of trivia? Isthisthe sort of thing where we have to wait to see if it has the same sort of cultural reference as the Berwick match? In Vitrio (talk) 08:07, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, regrettably. I think there is a pretty high bar for a separate "upset" article. Remains to be seen if this game has lasting coverage in the way of the Berwick Rangers game. I'm a bit surprised there isn't an article on the "Super Caley" victory against Celtic (2000). Jmorrison230582 (talk) 09:13, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There most definitely should be, it has the lasting coverage. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 12:33, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete second tier team beating Rangers is unusual but unlikely to have lasting coverage, since second tier teams beating first tier teams in cup matches happens often (e.g. Liverpool lost to Plymouth on the same weekend). I would not expect there to be lasting coverage of this, and if in future there is, then and only then should it be re-created. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:43, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Time will tell whether or not this will get lasting coverage but it's impossible to know right now. Not opposed to draftifying or redirecting but I don't think they are the best solution. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 12:33, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Not sure why creator would start it if they don't have time to make it decent? To be honest, not sure it would pass WP:GNG at this time, less than a day later. Matches like Berwick have long-term interest, QP match may well be the same but we cannot assess that after so little time. Crowsus (talk) 12:43, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 16:40, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Cos ^{(X + Z)} 00:33, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per some of the comments above, No need for a match article, should be noted in season articles. Govvy (talk) 21:11, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Stromness Primary School

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This primary school is not notable for an article. Patre23 (talk) 08:20, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - Schools, including primary schools, should follow WP:NSCHOOL. With that being said, I only found this BBC article. Limmidy (talk) 19:30, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Per WP:HEY, the article should be given time to develop before considering deletion. 1keyhole (talk) 02:29, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's not what WP:HEY says. Geschichte (talk) 19:59, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, unfortunately fails the relevant notability guideline. Geschichte (talk) 19:59, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:36, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The article is being improved. A Google search shows a number of news stories. Blackballnz (talk) 08:27, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. asilvering (talk) 07:03, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vital Spark

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Major WP:GNG and WP:V failure. Very poorly referenced piece of WP:FANCRUFT, summarizing a plot point (history of a fictional ship), and cataloging its appearances in various media, making WP:ORish claims that "The stories sparked considerable interest in the puffers, and many books explore their now vanished world." (in any case, if the stories sparked interest, that's not the same as this fictional ship doing that...). The articles does not even make the claim that one particular work or series is relevant to this ship, so I am not even sure what might be a plausible redirect target (per WP:ATD-R. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Comment~~ If sources can't be found to meet GNG, I'd suggest merging to Para Handy - that's the article about this long-running franchise as a whole, and the information about the various TV series featuring the Vital Spark is duplicated there (whereas it currently doesn't even have a photo of the ship). Adam Sampson (talk) 14:54, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A merge or redirect are always better than outright deletion, thanks for the suggestion. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:02, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That looks like a Keep now with the new sources. Adam Sampson (talk) 16:59, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Para Handy per the suggestion by Adam Sampson. The term "Vital Spark" will have widespread recognition amongst Scottish readers and those of wider literary awareness, but two of the three Notes in the article are currently dead links. I think encyclopaedia coverage is therefore still warranted. Cactus.man ✍ 16:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Changed to Keep in light of the substantial improvement work done by Drchriswilliams to bring the article up to sufficient standard that it now easily satisfies WP:GNG Cactus.man ✍ 21:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]
- Comment. I'd be happy to withdraw this after improvements, but I don't see them. As in, there are some changes, but I still do not see any analysis/reception or such; all that is written and referenced is pretty much what appears to be a 'list of ships with that name in fiction and real life'.
_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:24, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I was surprised to see an article with such an iconic name nominated, but I found the article was in bad shape. While the name started off as fiction, there came to be several vessels associated with the name. There is plenty of coverage in newspapers of Vital Spark Clyde puffers that have appeared in the various television series. Several of the articles feature pictures of the vessels. I have added a range of sources over several decades. I've edited the lead to reflect this. There is a bit of duplication of content across the articles on Neil Munro, Para Handy and the three series. The Para Handy article isn't particularly well referenced but some of the plot-related content could be moved to those if it helped to keep it in one place. Drchriswilliams (talk) 20:22, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep while I am a bit hesitant still, the article has been expanded to a stage where I'd feel confident in letting this stay around. Unopposed to further discussion in the future, but for now these sources definitely seem to illustrate the subject has some degree of notability. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:59, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:41, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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